Passion of Christ

[Cold Truth]

Originally posted by MIKELABZ
DANG THIS SHYT ASS THREAD IS STILL GROWING? WTF!!

YALL TALK ABOUT FAITH AND THEN TALK ABOUT BOOZE... HOW LONG DO U EXPECT TO LEAD A FULFILLING LIFE IF U KEEP CONTRADICTING YOUR VERY EXISTENCE.

MAN IS SUPPOSED TO DRINK, MAN IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE SEX, MAN IS SUPPOSED TO GET HIGH, MAN IS SUPPOSED TO FIGHT EACH OTHER, MAN IS SUPPOSED TO KILL, MAN IS SUPPOSED TO CALL HIS MOTHER A FAT BITCH... MAN IS SUPPOSED TO GET FUCKED IN THE ASS..

IF MAN WASNT SUPPOSED TO DO ANY OF ANYTHING THEN THOSE OPPPORTUNITES SIMPLY WOULD NOT EXIST... AS LONG AS WE ARE ON THIS ROCK WE CALL EARTH WE ARE ENTITLED TO DO ANYTHING WE CHOOSE AS LONG AS ITS WITHIN OUR CAPABILITIES...

HOW DO U EXPLAIN CLONING? IF THAT DOESNT PROVE TO U THAT WE ARE OUR OWN 'HIGHER BEINGS' THEN U ARE SADLY MISTAKEN AND MISINFORMED ABOUT UR INNER POTENTIAL...

HEY WHO KNOWS MAYBE ONE DAY THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY WE CLONE AND NICKNAME JESUS TO WALK THE EARTH... DRAW UR OWN CONCLUSIONS ON THAT STATEMENT.

i find it funny that you mention inspectah wu's "ignorance"...

.......because all cloning shows is that it took man thousands of years and millions of dollars and a rediculous amount of research by thousands of scientists taking information and through trial and error discovering a way to artificially generate life from something that is already in existence... cloning doesnt prove anything along those lines. so much for your latest theory.... inspectah doesnt comprehend? it doesnt look like you even comprehend the many holes in an argument like that....

you havent posted one fact that even secular scientists would agree with. you havent said anything that holds any water whatsoever.... i find it amusing that you have the nerve to say others need to "do their research" or they "dont comprehend" statements you have made when you havent even said anything with remote truth....

so once again you post away using only your own mind and zero common sense (they are obviously not very well thought out...) to your little theories just to try and shake everyone elses faith... just let it go mike, no one is trying to convert you, we have all established our positions, and we know where each other stands on the issues.. so why do you insist on continuing these little rants about why man is its own God? we get it. we know how you feel all ready. you know none of us is changing our position. we know you arent. so why argue the point after we have run the argument ragged?

sounds like you have some very real issues bro.......... and i hope you get them straightened out, because you seem to have some kind of hatred for those that have any faith in something besides themselves and you cant stand to see them with that faith.... every one else can state their thoughts and be cool, and move on with their lives and accept that we dont see eye to eye, but you.... want to show us that we are wrong SO BAD. why is that?

 

[Producer_GyaL]

passion of the christ is a delicate subject. Some people dont believe in god, some people do, some people dont like the way mel gibson did the movie, blablabla..... and it become a personnal matter, personnal opinion about religious or else. Anyways, i dont know if im going to see the movie, but as a producer, did you guys liked the music of that movie??? lol

 

[The Bastard]

the music was pretty good i was thinkin about sneakin in a mini cassete recorder and recording some samples .i woulda had some aramaic samples be4 the dvd even dropped. i changed my mind they do have the album with the music on it out now tho

 

[N.U.G.]

Originally posted by Cold Truth
i find it funny that you mention inspectah wu's "ignorance"...

.......because all cloning shows is that it took man thousands of years and millions of dollars and a rediculous amount of research by thousands of scientists taking information and through trial and error discovering a way to artificially generate life from something that is already in existence... cloning doesnt prove anything along those lines. so much for your latest theory.... inspectah doesnt comprehend? it doesnt look like you even comprehend the many holes in an argument like that....

you havent posted one fact that even secular scientists would agree with. you havent said anything that holds any water whatsoever.... i find it amusing that you have the nerve to say others need to "do their research" or they "dont comprehend" statements you have made when you havent even said anything with remote truth....

so once again you post away using only your own mind and zero common sense (they are obviously not very well thought out...) to your little theories just to try and shake everyone elses faith... just let it go mike, no one is trying to convert you, we have all established our positions, and we know where each other stands on the issues.. so why do you insist on continuing these little rants about why man is its own God? we get it. we know how you feel all ready. you know none of us is changing our position. we know you arent. so why argue the point after we have run the argument ragged?

sounds like you have some very real issues bro.......... and i hope you get them straightened out, because you seem to have some kind of hatred for those that have any faith in something besides themselves and you cant stand to see them with that faith.... every one else can state their thoughts and be cool, and move on with their lives and accept that we dont see eye to eye, but you.... want to show us that we are wrong SO BAD. why is that?

Cold Truth knows his stuff

 

[HCTarks]

word.. interesting debate, if anything

 

[MIKELABZ]

JUDGING BY THE REACTION I BET COLD TRUTH SAID SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT LIKE IF MAN DID ALL THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT WITH NO REMORSE THEN THE WORLD WOULD BE WORSE OFF OR SOMETHING TO THE POINT THAT HE BASICALLY FEELS AS THO RELIGION IS THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP THE WORLD CONTAINED AND SAFE. DEPENDING ON HIS DEFINITION OF CONTAINED AND SAFE I BET IT IS A VISION OF DOING GOOD AND RECEIVING GOOD AND SMILING AND HUGS ACCOMPANIED BY HUGS AND KISSES... BUT TRUTH IS THAT THE WORLD STOMPS THOSE THAT CARE TO SHARE... KIND HEARTS GET LEFT BEHIND... SOFT NIGGAS GET SOMETHING HARD IN THEY ASS... ESSENTIALLY I COULD CARE LESS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN GOD OR NOT... JUST DONT BE PUTTING THAT SHYT IN MY FACE... IF YOU SAW A POST IN THIS FORUM THAT SAID THE PASSION OF BEING GAY WOULD YOU JUST SIT THERE AND TAKE IT?...FUC NO... ALLS IM SAYING IS THAT IF YOU SO PEACEFUL IN YOUR FAITH YOU SHOULDNT POST THREADS LIKE THIS ONE THAT WOULD CAUSE SUCH TURMOIL WITHIN THE ILLMUZIK RANKS... ALL THIS GOES UNSAID CAUSE TO BE TRUTHFUL WITH YOU I DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO READ UR POST COLD... CAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO PICK APART MY THESIS IN ORDER TO POST YOUR OWN THEN YOU AINT REALLY SAYING ANYTHING NEW JUST TRYING TO DISCREDIT A OPINION OF MINE CAUSE YOU CANT STATE YOUR OWN ... AND THATS THE COLD HARD TRUTH BABY BOY.

 

[HCTarks]

Originally posted by MIKELABZ
ALL THIS GOES UNSAID CAUSE TO BE TRUTHFUL WITH YOU I DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO READ UR POST COLD... CAUSE IF YOU HAVE TO PICK APART MY THESIS IN ORDER TO POST YOUR OWN THEN YOU AINT REALLY SAYING ANYTHING NEW JUST TRYING TO DISCREDIT A OPINION OF MINE CAUSE YOU CANT STATE YOUR OWN ... AND THATS THE COLD HARD TRUTH BABY BOY.

why not read his post mikelabz? i dont get that part.. everyone else respects your opinions and what not, why not do the same for him?

 

[classic]

WTF!!!

omg when i started this thread i dident want all this.

if u read what i first wrote. I said i wanted everyones opionion about the movie and how it made them feel.

Dident want people to start forcing their views on other people.

If i would have know this would happend i would have never started the shit. ( i should have known better)

but still

WTF!?!?!?!

class...

 

[N.U.G.]

^^^^^

nah it's all good. it's interesting to see how people react and the opinions people have.

 

[MIKELABZ]

RIGHT,

WELL THERES NO LAW TELLING ME I GOTTA READ SHYT... SO NA MEAN IF I CHOSE TO NOT READ HIS POST THATS NOT TO SAY THAT U SHOULDNT THATS MY DECISION DONT LET THE FACT THAT I OVERLOOKED HIS COUNTER ACT AS A MEANS TO CONFUSE YOU OR CAUSE U TO BELIEVE I DONT RESPECT HIS OPINION... WITH ALL THAT SAID... COME UP WITH YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS...

 

[Muzik]

Smoke on yall.. and it you dont just do something else DAMN!!!! lol its got deep then turned into well you know!!!
People are People !!!!

 

[Muzik]

Can you say WWWWTTTTTTFFFFFF?
<~~~~ duckin over here!!

 

[CamCreationz]

Its obvious to me Mikelabz, that you have serious issues. Ive read everything you've contributed to this thread and have come to the conclusion that you are not only ignorant, foolish and arrogant.....but very very lost. Sad thing is that its probably not even your fault. Im not judging you....thats up to God....Im just calling out what I see and what Ive gathered from your reactions and words. Whatever your case man, I hope you can find some meaning to your existence.

You can negate all you want about the existence of Jesus Christ or the validity of the Bible, but the TRUTH is that there IS a higher power above all humans called God. The human mind IS NOT capable of understanding all the complexities behind such a being. Science is real yes, but it is a fact system limited to the mind of man. There are thousands of things in the universe that cannot be explained by science. The word 'religion' to me does mean 'bondage' and does have a negative connotation. This is because 'religion' (however many of them there are) is a set of beliefs that are limited. Its a set of rules. Believe this but dont believe that. This is right, this is wrong. Man has made these divisions and has ignorantly tailored them through time to fit a certain social acceptance. The REAL stuff is not in RELIGION. It is in a PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. I have this. I got it through Jesus Christ. This is where real love comes from. Knowing God personally lets you see life in a totally new light. I pray that someday God will reveal himslef to you and that you will be able to testify his greatness to those around you. God bless.

As for the movie, I saw it. It was harsh. I didn't however at any point feel like I was watching an overhyped Hollywood creation. It felt real. Seeing the humanity of Jesus that was portrayed let me feel God's love more than ever. Powerful film.

P.S. Im sorry if anything I said was offensive. Thats not my intent. Im just stating my point of view.

 

[sammy beats]

DAMN! this is a long ass thread. i haven't seen it yet. but after all the conversation this shit has sparked, now i GOTS to get in on the action. i'll probably hop on over to the flicks this weekend or something. then i'll come back and write my own big long review on the origins of christ and historical fiction or fact. haha.

 

[MIKELABZ]

FUCK THAT. THIS THREAD AINT EVEN ABOUT THE MOVIE, ITS ABOUT BOUNDARIES. NOBODY SHOULD SIT BACK AND LET THEIR INDEPENDENCE BE VIOLATED BY SOME RELIGIOUS PROPOGANDA. I FOR ONE ESPECIALLY AINT TAKING NO SHYT HAVING BEEN THRU THE WHOLE CHURCH SCENE... JUST LIKE SCHOOL AINT FOR EVERYBODY RELIGION AINT FOR EVERYBODY SO DONT BE PUSHING THAT SHYT IN MY FACE. YOU ACT LIKE I WAS THE ONE TO START THIS THREAD. IF THAT WAS THE CASE THEN I COULD SEE WHERE YOU WAS COMING FROM, BUT DAMN YALL THE ONES THAT CAME AT MY NECK THEN GONNA BE MAD WHEN I COME BACK AT YA. I'LL ADD THIS. I AINT START THE THREAD BUT U BETTER BELEIVE THAT I'LL FINISH IT. SO COOL OUT FAM IVE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT, HEARD THIS, READ THAT... U CALL ME IGNORANT WHILE YOU STILL BELIVE THAT 2 PEOPLE CAN REALLY START A WHOLE CIVILIZATION... IF U CHOOSE TO IGNORE SCIENCE AS THE ONLY REALITY THEN THATS ON YOU BUDDY... IM TELLING YOU NOW THAT YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN WILL NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING THATS EVEN CLOSE TO YOUR CURRENT STATE OF MIND... AND IN TIME YOU TO WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THE WORLD CANNOT POSSIBLY BE THE FAIRY TALE YOU CALL THE BIBLE... THAT THE WORLD IS A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION IS A GIVEN... EVERYTHING WE EXPERIENCE HAPPENS FOR A REASON... A REASON IS ESSENTIALLY A MATHEMATICAL PROBLEM... CAUSE AND EFFECT... HYPOTHESIS AND THESIS... SUPPORTING PARAGRAPH... SYNOPSIS... COMPUTE UNDERSTAND... CHANGE IS INEVITABLE... CHANGE = DEATH.

 

[Muzik]

<~~~ duckin over here!!!!! Can you just feel tha luv up in here!! lol

Ima tell ya like this yo.... i dont give a fuck about anything but makein sure my peeps are takein care of and most of all my tracks ... Dont know about yall but tracks is what makes me liv.. without my muzik i might as well blow my fuckin brains out!!!! Hip hop has no limits no boundries.. When you throw a sound on tha Mp run Reason and Totaly
freak tha fuck outta of it.. by the end of tha night tha track is givin me all tha spritial soul i need..... and then some!!!! Sorry Lab now ya can end it if ya want lol.. just wanted to Lay peace... oh by tha way what was the name of the "movie" ohh yea thats right my bad... LOL

 

[CamCreationz]

I don't ignore science at all. It just doesnt explain everything. Science doesnt explain love, hate, good, evil or emotions period. Scientists cant even fully understand the human brain. If you can show me a mathematical equation for Love I will be mostly impressed.

I never said anything about 2 people creating a civilization. Thats irrelevant. The origins of mankind is not what we're talking about here. Who are you to say what my children will believe? To believe in God is something that has always been in our humanity and will be until the end of time. Thats innevitable.

The world is the Bible? Didnt say that either. The Bible is the word of God. Yes it has changed through time, but I dont believe it because Ive been told to. I believe it because in my personal encounters with God he's made me see that the Bible is indeed His word. I call you ignorant because you speak of what you dont know. You obviously havent had an experience with God. Just with some false doctrined 'church' which led you the wrong way. Im sorry for that.

I'll debate this until the thread gets closed. I'll even go one on one with you on this Mike. Whatevers good son.

 

[Cold Truth]

i doubt it wil get closed. we are all on strike anyways, and until i hear different, we arent doing any moderating.....

also, even though the thread took a different turn then the beginners intentions, the topic of religion generally goes the direction it has gone. there is nothing wrong with the debating, but it needs to get past its current point of "you are all wrong, i'm right, and you are fools to believe what you believe........" because that is all it is now.

 

[MIKELABZ]

ENUFF OF THIS. WE ALL HERE CAUSE OF THE MUSIC SO WITH THAT SAID... PROCEED WITH SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE IN COMMON... LIFE GOES ON, WHETHER U DECIDE TO MOVE ALONG WITH IT IS YOUR DECISION... ID RATHER GO ON MY OWN LIFE EXPERIENCES IN THE MODERN DAY WORLD THEN PLAY UP TO A FICTIONAL CHARACTER THAT HAS LONG SINCE DIED IF EVER EXISTED AT ALL... ALL THIS DEBATING OVER A HOLLYWOOD FABRICATION AND A FAIRY TALE BOOK THAT COULD HAVE JUST AS EASILY BEEN WRITTEN BY H.P. LOVECRAFT... CHARLES DARWIN IS A FUCCIN GENIUS... MAN'S ONLY PURPOSE ON THIS EARTH IS TO REPRODUCE... ONLY IN THAT WAY WE ADVANCE OUR SOCIETY... DONT U REALIZE THAT WTHOUT SCIENCE YOU WOULDNT EVEN HAVE THE COMPUTER TO TYPE YOUR ARGUMENT OVER... BELEIVING IN A HIGHER BEING THEN YOURSELF IS A WASTE OF TIME AND A WASTE OF A PERFECTLY SOUND MIND... NOBODY SHOULD BE MORE IMPORTANT TO YOURSELF THEN YOURSELF... OPEN YOUR EYES... MAN HAS CLONED MAN ALREADY.. THAT RIGHT THERE MAKES MAN THE 'GOD' THAT U SO READILY ACCEPT AS SOME SANTA CLAUSE IMPERSONATOR LIVING IN THE HEAVENS... UNTIL U REALIZE YOUR INNER POTENTIAL YOUR NOT GOING ANYWHERE BUT BACKWARDS... THE INEVITABLE IN THE UNIVERSE IS CHANGE... THE MOST DOMINANT FORM OF CHANGE IS DEATH... IN ESSENCE OUR WHOLE POINT TO LIVING IS TO UNDERSTAND DEATH... DEATH IS IGNORANCE.. ONCE YOU DIE YOU FORGET EVERYTHING.. BASICALLY LIFE IS FOCUSED ON LEARNING ABOUT IGNORANCE... LEARNING TO UNLEARN THE DEVICES OF SOCIETY...

RELIGION IS ONE OF THE MOST DOMINANT FORM OF THOSE DEVICES.

 

[Muzik]

Are yall done yet??? DAMN!!!! <~~~ i think thats tha problem... its that Herbage!!!! ya mental state is tweaked out of proportion... I know why dont we all go back to tha lab and let tha beats do tha fuckin talkin.... Wonder when tha next showcase is....