LMAO.. I got a mental picture.
Kanye West - 808's & Heartbreak
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LMAO.. I got a mental picture.
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I have the album (copped it for wifey..she's a love lockdown fan) and even my girl thinks the album is bad....LOL...
One song would've been plenty for him (see snoop dogg)....But to do an entire album of autotuned singing is almost unbearable.....
Message to Kanye: YOU CAN'T SING!!! THAT'S IT...NOT EVEN ALL THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD CAN HELP YOU!!!
I can't hate on him trying to snatch up diff demographics....but an entire album....is not a good look for fans of Kanye in the beginning...
One song would've been plenty for him (see snoop dogg)....But to do an entire album of autotuned singing is almost unbearable.....
Message to Kanye: YOU CAN'T SING!!! THAT'S IT...NOT EVEN ALL THE TECHNOLOGY IN THE WORLD CAN HELP YOU!!!
I can't hate on him trying to snatch up diff demographics....but an entire album....is not a good look for fans of Kanye in the beginning...
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a little exerpt from ken lewis about his work on the album
http://www.protoolsmixing.com/blog.html
Thursday, November 27, 2008
808's & Heartbreak
Kanye West's new album, "808's & Heartbreak" came out Monday and is set to debut #1 on the Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart next week (my 4th #1 album of the year - Danity Kane, Day 26, Young Jeezy). However, the title of the album holds special meaning to me, at least the HEARTBREAK part, because, once again, my work is all over the album, but my name is missing completely from the credits. UGH. This happened to me as well on Gold Digger which i created music for, but my name was absent from the credits.
I contributed music to "Heartless" (the steady staccato flute is mine), "Welcome to the Heartbreak" (the piano line is me), and My biggest contribution to "808's...." is on the song "Robocop". There's a string section that starts the song, its a simple steady marching string section. Thats not me. Thats Larry Gold's string section. when the chorus comes in ("OK, OK, OK, you'll never stop it now") the big soaring orchestra in that section is all 100% me. and the orchestral music underneath the "Cause I dont want a Robocop...." is also all me.
When i say all me, I created it all. A basic breakdown of the instrumentation i used, all from sample libraries, alot from IK Multimedia's Miroslav Philharmonik, as well as East West Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra Platinum, and some of my other EXS 24 Logic sound libraries. Basically an entire orchestra, 1st violin section, 2nd violin section, viola section, cello section, double basses, french horns, trumpets, trombones, flute, piccolo, oboe, clarinet, english horn, harpsichord, tympani, orchestral snare, glockenspiel, and bassoon. It took me about 9 or 10 days to create it all, as there are several different passages, and lets face it, trying to create a full orchestra that fools the ear is quite an undertaking if you want it to sound real. Of course, Kanye sped up the orchestra, which also raised the pitch by 300 cents, so if you want to hear exactly what it sounds like at its originally created speed and pitch, you'll have to slow the record down, just like slowing a vinyl record down to drop the pitch by 300 cents. In fact, when i get back to my studio, i will take a clip from the chorus and do just that, and post it here for listening. I'd love to post a clean file of only the orchestra, but while i did all of the work, the record company owns all of the rights to it, so I can't really do that.
I was called in to work on the songs very near the completion of the album. In fact, as soon as i would finish something, and Kanye would approve it, I would send it straight off to Manny Marroquin in LA so he could drop it into the mixes (I think Manny mixed the whole album). I hope and suspect that the lateness with which i was called to contribute is why my name got left off, as i assume the credits and artwork had already gone to press. I was literally working on this album the first week of November and it was released on November 24th, which is virtually unheard of in the record making world. Though actually, the same time frame happened when i was working on Young Jeezy's album, and they managed to get me properly credited.
All i can say about it is that i love the album, and I'm very proud to be a part of it, but it is utterly depressing to not be properly credited for my work time and time again. People like me survive and thrive from the credits we earn, and when that credit is left off, its like taking money straight out of my pocket from lost future work. I will still of course put the credit on my discography, but the millions of albums that should have my name in them, won't. What can i say, Welcome To The Heartbreak.
-Ken Lewis
http://www.protoolsmixing.com/blog.html
Thursday, November 27, 2008
808's & Heartbreak
Kanye West's new album, "808's & Heartbreak" came out Monday and is set to debut #1 on the Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart next week (my 4th #1 album of the year - Danity Kane, Day 26, Young Jeezy). However, the title of the album holds special meaning to me, at least the HEARTBREAK part, because, once again, my work is all over the album, but my name is missing completely from the credits. UGH. This happened to me as well on Gold Digger which i created music for, but my name was absent from the credits.
I contributed music to "Heartless" (the steady staccato flute is mine), "Welcome to the Heartbreak" (the piano line is me), and My biggest contribution to "808's...." is on the song "Robocop". There's a string section that starts the song, its a simple steady marching string section. Thats not me. Thats Larry Gold's string section. when the chorus comes in ("OK, OK, OK, you'll never stop it now") the big soaring orchestra in that section is all 100% me. and the orchestral music underneath the "Cause I dont want a Robocop...." is also all me.
When i say all me, I created it all. A basic breakdown of the instrumentation i used, all from sample libraries, alot from IK Multimedia's Miroslav Philharmonik, as well as East West Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra Platinum, and some of my other EXS 24 Logic sound libraries. Basically an entire orchestra, 1st violin section, 2nd violin section, viola section, cello section, double basses, french horns, trumpets, trombones, flute, piccolo, oboe, clarinet, english horn, harpsichord, tympani, orchestral snare, glockenspiel, and bassoon. It took me about 9 or 10 days to create it all, as there are several different passages, and lets face it, trying to create a full orchestra that fools the ear is quite an undertaking if you want it to sound real. Of course, Kanye sped up the orchestra, which also raised the pitch by 300 cents, so if you want to hear exactly what it sounds like at its originally created speed and pitch, you'll have to slow the record down, just like slowing a vinyl record down to drop the pitch by 300 cents. In fact, when i get back to my studio, i will take a clip from the chorus and do just that, and post it here for listening. I'd love to post a clean file of only the orchestra, but while i did all of the work, the record company owns all of the rights to it, so I can't really do that.
I was called in to work on the songs very near the completion of the album. In fact, as soon as i would finish something, and Kanye would approve it, I would send it straight off to Manny Marroquin in LA so he could drop it into the mixes (I think Manny mixed the whole album). I hope and suspect that the lateness with which i was called to contribute is why my name got left off, as i assume the credits and artwork had already gone to press. I was literally working on this album the first week of November and it was released on November 24th, which is virtually unheard of in the record making world. Though actually, the same time frame happened when i was working on Young Jeezy's album, and they managed to get me properly credited.
All i can say about it is that i love the album, and I'm very proud to be a part of it, but it is utterly depressing to not be properly credited for my work time and time again. People like me survive and thrive from the credits we earn, and when that credit is left off, its like taking money straight out of my pocket from lost future work. I will still of course put the credit on my discography, but the millions of albums that should have my name in them, won't. What can i say, Welcome To The Heartbreak.
-Ken Lewis
slik da relic
RS Jedi
ill o.g.
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this is why i HATE record companies... fukk that... samplin will stay a part of my arsenal!!!
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