young_keyz said:
Real talk.... if you went from a mpc 4000 to a 2500 i wouldnt advise you to get a Mv 8000. At this point it aint the gear dog it could be you who just needs to sit down and work harder with what you have(overall grow with your gear). I use to own a mpc 2000xl and i got the mv because the price was nice and the features was alot bettter than what was in the xl(dont get me wrong a mpc xl is all you need to make hits). The reason i got the mv was from what it can do i feel i could see myself using it for the next 10 plus years. Thats one thing people dont do anymore when they buy gear. All you doing is trading for the same thing at the end of the day why not just keep what you have.
You bring up some valid points, however they are irrelevant in this instance. I didn't sell my 4000 cause I don't know what it is I'm doing or what is is I want. I know the 4K's OS inside and out. Not once did I state that I was encountering difficulties working these two pieces. I was just asking for opinions from other users and sharing some quirks I have had with Roland gear in the past. Difficulties with equipment is not really an issue for me, I service electronic musical instruments and audio hardware for a living; growing with gear is no problem when you can disassemble, repair and reassemble them again 100%.
I'm starting to travel a lot more now as my contractors are expanding throughout Canada, so I need something more portable and versatile. I personally do not find the MPC4K to be a very travelworthy unit...others may disagree, but my experience has taught me better.
Tonight, one of my junior producers has asked me to sell him the MPC 2500 I just picked up cause he can't afford the $2900 price tag from the music stores. No problem at all, he can have it, no skin off my back.
Besides, I went to audition the MV today at my local music store for a few hours. I'm satisfied with its performance. I was really impressed with the VGA expansion system, the thing works just like a DAW with mouse and all. The MV is larger than desired but at least it does not have all the dimensions and weight that the 4K does. I already know the Roland OS inside, having used the Fantom for the last five years, and I can get good factory prices on the expansions.
In conversation with staff at the store, it seems that Roland is determined to support this product and not leave it behind like it has done with some of their other instruments and for me, that is a plus. You said, young_keyz, that you see yourself using your MV for the next 10 years, I too would like to do the same. Knowing that Roland is aggressively supporting this machine goes a long way to making sure that will happen for both of us.
Your theory that I am not working hard enough on my 'gear' slightly offends me, but I will brush it off my shoulders cause in the end, I win. I sold the 4000 for $3500 CDN. Purchased the 2500 for $1900 CDN. Selling it to one of my associates for $2200 CDN, with upgraded HDD and RAM. Now through one of my suppliers who's sitting on overstock, I can now get the MV-8000 for $1500 even...and I get to put $2300 profit in the bank with all the other dollars hard earned.
So in a way, young_keyz, we are motivated by the same thing, price and features. I can't just be production minded when making purchases of music equipment, I have to look at the costs of goods bought and sold and the level of after-sales service and product support. I've also got to find the deals wherever they may be. I'm a businessman, this is my methodology and I stick by it bar none.
young_keyz said:
Unfortunately, you missed the point. It was about investment, portability and versatility not difficulty.
Much has happened since I put out the word that I was selling my 4K a week ago, I just happen to be in the right place and the right time about to score a pretty decent deal. As Pops would say "Yit Ta Dee!"
Peace.
