The state of black women today

Eurydice

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e.porter said:
hummm interesting...
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ITS TRUE....

SEE BEING A HOE IS THE ABILITY TO...NOTHING MORE THAN EXERCISE'N YOUR ABILITY...WHEN A MAN EXCERCISES HIS ABILTY...HE'S THE MAN..
WHEN A WOMAN EXCERCISES HER ABILTY TO HAVE SEX..SHE'S A HOE..WHAT TYPE OF SHIT IS THAT...
 

Greg Savage

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Eurydice said:
See This Is The Problem...men Are So Contridicting ......ok So If I Have Some Thing On Sexy...or In My Own Words Scandelous ...i Look Like A Hoe? What Type Of Shit Is That? Are You Serious...its Acceptable For A Woman To Be A Freak Behind Doors, But She Cant Show Her Sexuality In Public...see ...this Is Why I'm Single...there Is Nothing Wrong With A Woman Showing Off Her Body...we Were Born Naked..

^^ i never said there was anything wrong with showing off your body personally i dont care..Most hoes dress a certain way and alot of girls dress that same way how am i suppose to know?

Most bloods wear alot of red.. i wear alot of red does that make me a blood? no But how do u know thaT? u dont..

If i want a clean respectable female i look in a Respectable area thats just me

I not gonna go to the corner liquor store when i want Le Montrachet Sure that Corner Store might have it but why Weave through all bs when u can just go to the right place?
 

Ash Holmz

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Eurydice said:
See This Is The Problem...men Are So Contridicting ......ok So If I Have Some Thing On Sexy...or In My Own Words Scandelous ...i Look Like A Hoe? What Type Of Shit Is That? Are You Serious...its Acceptable For A Woman To Be A Freak Behind Doors, But She Cant Show Her Sexuality In Public...see ...this Is Why I'm Single...there Is Nothing Wrong With A Woman Showing Off Her Body...we Were Born Naked..

i agree with ya .. my girl dresses sexy as hell all of the time even if she aint doin shit.. i met her in a club( i am a promoter) but i will say there is a diffrence between sexy and hoeish... some girls dont know the diffrence.... thats where all these stereotypes come from.. im sure every dude in here has seen the chick with the leather skirt that got the bottom of her ass hangin out it drinkin on a cheap well drink dancing all bent over like shes takin it from behind.... i know i ssmmmmmssmmmmmmaaaaaaasssssshhhed a few of those types .........but them days of looking for girls like that is ova! ... my girl got me whipped fo real lmfao!


guys and girls got equal status at clubs.. beleive me i promote at nyc's hottest joints i have observed it all.... there is plenty of hoes in both genders... and there are some wannabee hoes too .... every dude aint a hoe or a playa or whatever... i used to sssmmmmaasshh a decent amount of chicks but even then i wasnt no playa.. i always would tell a chick straight up what the deal was... i never made a game about it or said some shit i didnt mean... i never cheated on any girl i called my girlfriend

bottom line there are plenty good dudes out there and plenty good women... its like anything else tho... just a few bad people can fuc up alot of good peoples nights .. or lives for that matter
 

sYgMa

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Eurydice said:
I think men are a completely confused gender:

so lets say you meet me in a club:
A) I'm gonna have something scandelous on
B) I'm gonna have a drink in my hand (if not 2)
C) I'm going to be dancing my ass off
D) I won't be with any guys...( i dont bring sand to the beach)

So, upon first impression you would think that I wouldnt be a great mother/wife...but if you stopped and actually met me...you would see that I would make some man very happy ....

where I live... all those are messages saying "I want some"... if that's not the message you wanna send, that's something else, but IT IS the message you're sending... If a guy is looking for a quick pick up (cuz, yeah, some girls are looking for that).. he wont go to the little shy girl in the corner of the club, with a glass of milk. He'll go for the sexy (scandalous), drinking, dancing girl with no guys...

I think that's just logics... no?

And, of course, it's the same for a girl. If she want a fix, she'll go for the guy wearing the muscle shirt (hope not), the bling or the 3 piece suit or whatever she finds sexy... the guy that attracts the eye...

And, bottom line, yeah... I wont look for a wife in a club. It IS possible to find a good girl in a club, but, as someone else said, why look for gourmet food in a fastfood joint ?

(I wish there where more girls here... the discussion would be way better )
 

JPeg

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sYgMa said:
If a guy is looking for a quick pick up (cuz, yeah, some girls are looking for that).. he wont go to the little shy girl in the corner of the club, with a glass of milk. He'll go for the sexy (scandalous), drinking, dancing girl with no guys...

I think that's just logics... no?

that is logical but in many cases the girls that act all loud and scandalous is really just attention seeking, they wanna boost they ego and be a tease, but the quiet chick in the corner is more likely to be up for it on some low down freak shit. lol
 

shadeed

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I don't know how anybody can generalize the "state of black women" or categorize a
whole group--most of y'all haven't been around long enough or experienced enough Black women to make any sort of relevant analysis about my women.

I can't say all Black women are good -or- that they are all bad. I deal with all people from all walks of life on a case-by-case basis.


One thing I've always noticed is that you will always attract the people around you that you feel you are worthy enuff to be around. What this means, is if you are attracting women that be-little you, cheat on you, want you for just your money etc etc, then you, as a MAN, have self-esteem issues that you need to work out first and foremost.
If you are a man who is about something, you will most likely attract somebody that is goal-oriented such as yourself.


My only problem with women today is that the woman's liberation movement has brought them into the workplace and they are losing their womanly skills such as taking care of the home and fixing a decent meal every night.
 

Eurydice

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StressWon said:
i wish there was a State of just Black Women,,,MMMMM HMMMM,,,,I'de go there on vacation every year!!!! lol


WE WOULD KILL EACHOTHER...THE STATE WOULD NEVER LAST..
 

sYgMa

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shadeed said:
My only problem with women today is that the woman's liberation movement has brought them into the workplace and they are losing their womanly skills such as taking care of the home and fixing a decent meal every night.

that's a joke, right?
 
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Svenghali

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Eurydice

That's putting it into proper perspective. That's how you have to break it down cause all trees have roots.
 

DJ Xsinna

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Eurydice said:
Why Shouldnt We Get Someone Perfect? Dont U Want A Chick Who Is Perfect...

I think that's where the problem lies, the perfect mate is an image put together by the media and our own mental constructs. I feel what you've been saying though Eurydice. My wife and I have been married for 10 years now. I'm not perfect and she's not perfect. The state of women today in my opinion is "damaged". Damaged because they've been hurt by immature males, damaged physically, damaged self-images (you can thank BET videos for that), damaged by their own female friends i.e. gossip. And damaged because the population of black males and black male role models is dying out. There are so many variables to this issue. Some black males are too busy playing games and some females don't have time for that. One the flipside, there are females who play games with a guy's head and junk. I know from experience. Some females will keep a nigga' around only because he's "gassing" her head all up and it boosts her damaged ego. I have seen this before as well.

You do make some very valid points though Eurydice. Basically, we as men need to grow up and be about our business and women need to give us the chance and encouragement to do so. We as men are very damaged as well.
 

DJ Xsinna

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Eurydice said:
a man finally got it...

LOL! That's only because I USED TO BE one of those guys you talked about. Then I grew up. I was a dawg. After awhile (and my mom praying for me) I went through some stuff and a change took place in my heart. I began to see things and women differently. I'm married to an AWESOME woman and I learn A LOT from her. My sister-in-law says the same things you said.
 

sYgMa

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DJ X-sinna said:
I think that's where the problem lies, the perfect mate is an image put together by the media and our own mental constructs.

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We as men are very damaged as well.

I'm not against what you said, but some stuff you're saying leaves a sour taste in my mouth... The state of black women IS damaged, that's true. But even if the media is responsable for some of the damage, it is, in the same way, responsible for the damage on the black man's image.

I mean, when was the last time you saw a movie where a strong black woman was taking care of her kids, going through all sorts of problems and staying strong, while her man left her, because he was scared/selfish/irresponsable/etc... Well, that's a common picture, right ?

NOW, how many movies about the exact opposite. A guy taking care of his kids, with a wife who left... not a lot right ? Or a woman who was left by his man, and is going buckwild, doing all sorts of crap, not taking care of her kids... Even less...

And people will say: "Well of course! That's what happens in the reality. Men are dogs!"

Man are dogs!

they say that damn sentence in movies, commercials, mothers are saying that shit to their daughters, etc... Now, imagine a guy saying: "Women are bitches!" to his kids... wierd huh? It doesn't sound as normal as the other exemple, right?

Why is that? Cuz everywhere, that's the image given to guys ...

A girl dissing a guy in a commercial... REAL FUNNY!
A girl looking for a mate, in a commercial... she knows what she wants!

A guy dissing a girl in a commercial... what a dog!
A guy looking for a mate, in a commercial... he's looking for ass... what a dog!

So, I mean, yeah, black women's image is damaged. But is that a reason for damaging the black men's image? Wouldn't it be better if there was no damaging what so ever?
 

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Eurydice said:
i know what i want..........

i'd step to you at the club, you wouldnt be a ho until you slept with me and then got at my friend the next day

i learned this a while back. every female who likes to look and or feel sexy aint a tramp...
everybody deserves to be accepeted without prejiduce, until their actions prove otherwise.

that said...... what is it you want from a guy?

if somebody wants to get at you at the club
how should he go about it

cause you got a lot of "rules" it seems...
 

DJ Xsinna

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sYgMa said:
I'm not against what you said, but some stuff you're saying leaves a sour taste in my mouth... The state of black women IS damaged, that's true. But even if the media is responsable for some of the damage, it is, in the same way, responsible for the damage on the black man's image.

I mean, when was the last time you saw a movie where a strong black woman was taking care of her kids, going through all sorts of problems and staying strong, while her man left her, because he was scared/selfish/irresponsable/etc... Well, that's a common picture, right ?

NOW, how many movies about the exact opposite. A guy taking care of his kids, with a wife who left... not a lot right ? Or a woman who was left by his man, and is going buckwild, doing all sorts of crap, not taking care of her kids... Even less...

And people will say: "Well of course! That's what happens in the reality. Men are dogs!"

Man are dogs!

they say that damn sentence in movies, commercials, mothers are saying that shit to their daughters, etc... Now, imagine a guy saying: "Women are bitches!" to his kids... wierd huh? It doesn't sound as normal as the other exemple, right?

Why is that? Cuz everywhere, that's the image given to guys ...

A girl dissing a guy in a commercial... REAL FUNNY!
A girl looking for a mate, in a commercial... she knows what she wants!

A guy dissing a girl in a commercial... what a dog!
A guy looking for a mate, in a commercial... he's looking for ass... what a dog!

So, I mean, yeah, black women's image is damaged. But is that a reason for damaging the black men's image? Wouldn't it be better if there was no damaging what so ever?

I feel what you are saying there and you make a very strong point. But did you check the end of my statement? Men are damaged too, by the some of the very issues you pointed out. I could have gone into depth with that but the topic was "the state of black women today".
 
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