Take the JJ OS Poll....

[Shonsteez]

So how many of you are actively using the JJ OS and claim hands down its more stable, efficient, and logical then the official Akai release?

I'm just curious to see where everyone stands...I tried it out before attempting to buy it and I honestly wasn't that impressed, plus graphically things looked funky to me personally...not by much but it was enough to bother me.
I also didn't like how JJ integrated the trim functions in TRIM mode. Its just not as logical to move from each slice with the cursor rather than the data wheel. Guess thats obviously my preference, but with my work flow it tended to slow me down rather then help me out and speed things up. I can slice shit without autoslice pretty dam fast now even though that is a useful starting point for where to chop.

Thoughts?

 

[Relic]

I havent gotten it yet , 2 reasons:
1) I was happy to be getting down pat the Akia system(which took long enough).
2) I have never seemed to have the money .(Which isnt a whole lot)

Mostly number 1, I figured I better understand the concept and function of everything first.
I still plan on getting it for my 2500 one day.

 

[Sanova]

Im using it... The NEW OS2 is fucking insane.

NON DESTRUCTIVE CHOP.

done.

 

[Relic]

^^ Hes the main reason I wanna go buy it...Loves it.. lol

 

[Chrono]

There are a lot of subtleties which makes the difference for me. For one thing when you connect to your PC and want to disconnect you no longer have to go to PC and disconnect hardware and then remove cable: instead just use mpc to back out of menu. The basic menu is set up much more easily to work on projects in my opinion. There were quiet a few things that bugged me about the way the menu operated before but since using JJ for like 4 months I forgot what most of those problems were. I voted that it's "freakin amazing" but it's not like you need it. One thing I'd like to be able to do easily is make one Song and mute each drum or hat track so I could easily "track out" each instrument in the Song format. On this song i'm working on now I am about to get to that point because I have the skeleton complete and am about to freak the drums out so I haven't actually tried to do this yet.. there may be a way to do what I want.. so far i've only thought in my mind of different ways I could do it.

Also, I do not use the MPC for cutting or timestretching

EDIT:
Duece thanks for the thread I was using 4.79 and they have update 4.99 now (I would have never known). Hey Rel, save a dollar a day for a month

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/

 

[Shonsteez]

Cool cool....thanks for the feedback guys.
Yeah regarding that dilema you spoke of - the only way to remedy that is to make each sound on different tracks, or while tracking go to the mixer and turn down the unwanted sound and then turn it back up later and then turn the others down, or lastly one cool thing I discovered is that if u like to do certain sounds together but want the ease of tracking seperately later on, then COPY that original track with more then one sound to another track as many times as needed for however many sounds you got and then disect in step edit what u dont want on each track. (a little time consuming but easy enough).

I find it interesting that a lot of people really hate the AKAI OS for reasons aside from the obvious cripples like NO chop shop, or NO recordable mutes?

Aside from my hatred towards AKAI for being bitches and implementing cripples in the OS like that so you have to buy the big brother machine, I still think its nicer looking aesthetically. Plus i hear a lot of people constantly complaining about bug issues. The only bugs Ive run across on 2.10 is the directory issue and only like 2 times out of almost 2 years now.
But i def see the benefits of the JJ OS - I think it still needs to be refined though.

Maybe Ill be impressed soon hopefully!?

 

[N.Y.S.O.M.]

Im using it... The NEW OS2 is fucking insane.

NON DESTRUCTIVE CHOP.

done.

ill be right behind u Sanova

 

[Sanova]

Oh also, the latest OS from AKAI for the 1000 has a serious bug that eventually damages all the data on you're CF card.. I forget the exact name and cause of this but its like on every post over at mpc-forums.com

That was a risk I was just not willing to take..

 

[Relic]

Oh also, the latest OS from AKAI for the 1000 has a serious bug that eventually damages all the data on you're CF card.. I forget the exact name and cause of this but its like on every post over at mpc-forums.com

That was a risk I was just not willing to take..

Bullshit...

 

[N.Y.S.O.M.]

Bullshit...

I aint neva come across no bug

 

[Shonsteez]

Yeah, i can totally dig not wanting to loose everything on your card. I still have 2.10. I tried 2.11 the last AKAI release and it is shit, plus they didnt add anything new. But 2.10 is 99% stable for me and ive been using it for 2 years.

I also found you need to format your CF once you get it before u start building up folders of beats on it since that can often be the cause of directory fries.

 

[Sanova]

LOL just one of many posts from users experiencing the error from the AKAI OS

Regarding the "Directory Error" message -- the Akai 2.1 OS has a known bug in it's drive formating routine which can cause gradual or immediate data corruption. It may not produce a functional problem right away but sooner or later etc. etc...Akai v1.07 supposedly does not have this problem, but that OS will not support a hard drive larger than 2 gigs. So the only method I know of for dealing with this is to backup all data and install the "illicit" JJ OS 3.06 (which corrects this error -- you can also use JJ v4 if you want to buy it) and re-format your drives. After that, you can re-install the Akai OS if you want too and the problem should, in theory, go away. The problem is not in the saving but the initial formating of the drive.

-http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=64103&highlight= (post 2)

Dunno which os you have, but apparently 1.07 is the one with the problem. google it you skeptical sons of bitches

 

[Shonsteez]

Yeah, im still using 2.10.
I honestly have only ran into a couple directory problems and thats it and only twice in two years.
Im just waiting for the JJos to get fully refined and better looking before I take the plunge for good. Ive already tried it and felt that it wouldn't really help me anymore from what I already got at least right now.

I have to admit the recordable mutes would be key but I didn't really like the way it was implemented. Same with AutoChop. Its like the ideas are there but the choices for executing those functions werent very logical to me. But hey that me right!?...

After the first directory fry i just make sure to back all my data up once a month onto my firewire hd and then im straight in case something happens.... Im not worried though.

 

[Chrono]

Cool cool....thanks for the feedback guys.
Yeah regarding that dilema you spoke of - the only way to remedy that is to make each sound on different tracks, or while tracking go to the mixer and turn down the unwanted sound and then turn it back up later and then turn the others down, or lastly one cool thing I discovered is that if u like to do certain sounds together but want the ease of tracking seperately later on, then COPY that original track with more then one sound to another track as many times as needed for however many sounds you got and then disect in step edit what u dont want on each track. (a little time consuming but easy enough).

I find it interesting that a lot of people really hate the AKAI OS for reasons aside from the obvious cripples like NO chop shop, or NO recordable mutes?

Aside from my hatred towards AKAI for being bitches and implementing cripples in the OS like that so you have to buy the big brother machine, I still think its nicer looking aesthetically. Plus i hear a lot of people constantly complaining about bug issues. The only bugs Ive run across on 2.10 is the directory issue and only like 2 times out of almost 2 years now.
But i def see the benefits of the JJ OS - I think it still needs to be refined though.

Maybe Ill be impressed soon hopefully!?

Ahh thanks Duece! I appreciate that info

-c.t.

 

[Shonsteez]

No doubt, i mean im obviously biased...but at the same time im all for coppin the JJos when I think its ready - thats pretty much why i wanted to take a poll to see what other people think.

 

[Chrono]

LOL just one of many posts from users experiencing the error from the AKAI OS


-http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=64103&highlight= (post 2)

Dunno which os you have, but apparently 1.07 is the one with the problem. google it you skeptical sons of bitches

Yes, I can testify to this. One of the iller (first beats) I made was lost to this issue! It was a long time ago and I never read about it anywhere but have noticed that I have not had it in a long time. Despite this however I back up my songs three times , and I also turned off auto-backup in protools but manually back up my sessions sometimes multiple times during a session. Remiinds me, that Haze47 song (lyrics) I lost in a corrupted computer issue after I nearly finished it. At the time it was my best writings period and I totally lost them! Like a miracle I tortured my memory with severe techniques and actually came up with everthing and some things improved but because of this my main goal in music production now is to back everything up!!! the illness is not the issue, it's losing things that i can not get back.. it's like losing a good friend. But it's good to know that the bug is officially fixed in this OS

i think people complain too much about stuff though.. i mean it's amazing we have the technology we do. seriously ;]

 

[Shonsteez]

I mean, I think yer referencing 1.07 correct? That one is bunk. I have 2.10. That ones not perfect either - its got bugs also, but the only one ive run into is with the directory fry and that only occurred twice in 2 years. Just wanted to make sure your not thinkin that the 2.10 is flawless?....Cuz its not.

Thats why im ready for a good JJOS or a new AKAI that doesnt suck.

 

[Chrono]

I mean, I think yer referencing 1.07 correct? That one is bunk. I have 2.10. That ones not perfect either - its got bugs also, but the only one ive run into is with the directory fry and that only occurred twice in 2 years. Just wanted to make sure your not thinkin that the 2.10 is flawless?....Cuz its not.

Thats why im ready for a good JJOS or a new AKAI that doesnt suck.

Yes, I almost certain it was 1.07. I cannot perfectly remember what OS it was but I am sure it was before 2.10; it only happened 2-3 times and since I began backing the saves off I really haven't had the issue.. actually forgot about it. backing things up keeps me from really worrying about anything :]

 

[Shonsteez]

Yeah, thats good practice. Dude, when I tried 2.11 it had this really fucked up bug where if I had one seq that was a different bpm from the second one and then put them into song mode and played the new song/seq I made, the bpm change would always fuck up and then go to 30. for the change. I just gave up and reinstalled 2.10 for good.

I reported that to AKAI and they pretended to care.

 

[Sanova]

Yeah, im still using 2.10.
I honestly have only ran into a couple directory problems and thats it and only twice in two years.
Im just waiting for the JJos to get fully refined and better looking before I take the plunge for good. Ive already tried it and felt that it wouldn't really help me anymore from what I already got at least right now.

I have to admit the recordable mutes would be key but I didn't really like the way it was implemented. Same with AutoChop. Its like the ideas are there but the choices for executing those functions werent very logical to me. But hey that me right!?...

After the first directory fry i just make sure to back all my data up once a month onto my firewire hd and then im straight in case something happens.... Im not worried though.

Are you basing you're opinions off the free version of JJOS? or have you actually purchased it?

I say this because the free version is the very first JJOS versio So of course it had bugs and various features..

But that was created at LEAST a year ago.. There are more features, and virtually no bugs on the latest greatest versions (based on personal experience)

Lately, everytime they post a bug fix it was some obscure bug that i didn't even know existed.. and lately, its gone to the extent that the "bug fixes" were things like changing words, or correcting typos that were lost in translation.

however If you are referring to the new JJOS than, my mistake