my lil branding issue

alr so I'm not writing this post as a "come solve this problem for me" cause I'm obviously the one too retarded to decide. probably should've decided long ago anyway. I'm mostly writing out loud because this is something I should've thought about long ago but I HATE making decisions so, I'm doing it out loud to make it easier for myself ig lmao. but advices are 120% welcome. you guys definitely know better than I do on this matter. so uhh...

rn I'm actively and passively trying to make it as:

  • Full name
  • Arvin Armani
  • Lady Magnum
  • Orchestrate Everything
  • Rendez

that's about as many as I can remember rn
these one's are fine:
  • Orchestrate Everything is obviously my yt channel, diff story, all good.
  • Lady Magnum is a virtual band I've been planning to start for years, finally getting some concrete material this year (I have 2.5 finished, fully written & mostly produced tracks, waiting to be recorded). that's all good too.
  • Rendez is our lil "band" in Iran where we spit some goofy shit. I'll be using that for clickbaity songs that yk... throwin shit at the wall, may stick or not.

again these are all fine, no problem. where it get's tricky is here:

  • there's a film/tv/movie career I'm goin after in Iran
  • there's an underground, not-so-legal hip hop producer career I'm also going after in Iran (but not too much, just for the money)
  • there's a film/tv/movie career I'm going after outside Iran
  • there's a pop/hiphop/etc production career I'm pursuing outside Iran

iran tv career = bit tied to the govt, so, safer to use full name. + there's already 1 TV project I've produced for there which uses my full name in the credits. so ig it makes sense if I'm sticking to that.

then for film composing outside iran, I think I'm using Arvin Armani instead? I mean full name on this as well wouldn't hurt, but I already did use "Armani" on this 1 short film in Iran and unfortunately (lmao) it went big enough to be international and I don't wanna lose that credit. does that credit matter? is it really a sacrifice if I say "ehh, fuck it" and just use my full name on future intl films as well from now on?

if I don't, I probably can't use Armani for my hip hop career in or outside Iran, since no one wants a producer who's writing for harry potter & 50 cent at the same time. bear in mind I've already been involved in mix/production of like 50 60 tracks in india as "Arvin Armani". (also I don't want the brand "Arvin Armani" to be working with just any random ahh indian who's willing to pay. some random shit like "Aeezy-A" or sumn can do that while Armani is busy doing important things like rewatching singin in the rain with a both hands in his pants for the 20th time.)


So I'd suppose the logical approach is:

  • Film / TV / Legal music in Iran: Full Name
  • Film / TV outside Iran: Armani
  • Other Music outside Iran: New name
  • Hip Hop/Illegal music in Iran: New name (same as last)
  • Shit music: New New name
ORRRRRR

  • Film / TV / Legal music in Iran: Full Name
  • Film / TV outside Iran: Full Name
  • Other Music outside Iran: Arvin Armani
  • Hip Hop/Illegal music in Iran: Arvin Armani
  • Shit music: New name

also is one supposed to make whole ass social media accounts for each and every one of these "personalities"? I can barely manage my 1 account and even for that I have to use vpns n whatnot so much that zuck thinks I'm a bot. and I'll have to make people follow all my accounts? isn't that rude? lmfao












ALSO I've recently picked up painting randomly. a voice inside of me urges me to just merge tf out of all personalities and be like "yeah so I draw, I make fat beats, I write poems, I compose orchestras and I probably hate you. I'm one of those people. leave me alone, probably? maybe I'll cut my ear or something idk? wanna get fweaky with me? maybe some sex? possibly? please?" like yk, ludwig goransson it. or ludwig van vincent van goghthoven it. idk, I hate this part. I just wanna design hotels n nail it yk. throw shit at any wall I fw.

but then again, I have been asked "what's your style?" multiple times by professional people and it pisses me the fuck off. my style is whatever you're willing to pay me to do. if I was really just pursuing my own will & inspiration, u think I'd have been here to work with your uninspired sleazy ass? what can you do tho. your growth can't be noticed unless you fit yourself in a frame. you can't compete with infinity.

Fu-Huck! I hate doing this part so much lmfao.

anyway, side note, there's also Vanguard FM but that's not really a music "Creator". more like an illmuzik-sponsored occasional content creator. I've also considered creating a new yt channel for like... phonk gaming type beats with japanese girls on thumbnail for the sake of views & money n shit. idk.
 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 670
I kinda just glimpsed the end bit, so I'm going to assume some wiz you may need and assume the dilemma you're facing.

I think your dilemma is "wHaT naMe shOuLd i UsE heaR and Wot NaME tHerE"

First of all - I fully fully get it. I used to think that a lot. I still do a bit. I've had a few different names/identities to put out different shit under.

But let me tell you --- don't overthink it. Like really, maybe even underthink it. JUST MAKE SURE YOU PUT SHIT OUT. I think you can trust me saying that, I had(ve) that mindset and you know the rest.

now if you really must , id say keep ot very fucking simple;
any producey type beat type stuff, whether thats hip hop, pop, whatever, go by your main prod name.
If you're doing something completely different and very composey and not necessarily commerical/dance "music", like film scoring or whatever. Feel free to put as your actual or pseudonym. And dont be shy about the names being linked if they end up. (Unless you're on some low key diddy shit with the arvin name making wild statements).

But just keep it very fucking simple, don't overthink it at all, just get that music out there. Your results themselves may shape your brand.

G'luck, lil bro. You know my inbox always be open

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First rule of reading any arvin post --- scroll all the way down to see how long it is before you start reading.

Gonna save this one for my next shit.
I've won the battle that, I get to talk a little extra :hahaha:





no but really ur help would be appreciated on this. I think you've had the same issue too. I'm hoping ur saving this post for a fat shit.
 
I've won the battle that, I get to talk a little extra :hahaha:





not but really ur help would be appreciated on this. I think you've had the same issue too. I'm hoping ur saving this post for a fat shit.
(only a little extra tho. the 30 lines after the "little extra" is just me actively not having a life.)
 
Nah, just in before with the answer you requested after
oh ikk, ppreciate it. just threw in a nerd card for sport.


and yeah you do seem to make sense. I think I'll just ask the directors to use my full name from now on. I hope the govt doesn't track my name n be like "u worked with american guy after us, punishment is butt sex". makes it all easier. then I'll just use Arvin Armani for errythin else that isn't shit (or outright illegal) music.

the only dilemma left will be the social media issue. I wouldn't have minded multiple accs if my phone wasn't a brick. I have to do errythin on desktop so it makes it hard, zuck might think I'm ninjagramming n ban my shit.

also side note, I feel like I got INSANE Brain fog rn. it's almost like the brain equivalent of tryna see with that one practically blind friend's glasses on.
 

Fade

The Beat Strangler
Administrator
illest o.g.
I'm too old/tired/don't give a shit to read what this post is. Something about bran?

Family Bathroom GIF by South Park
 

Fade

The Beat Strangler
Administrator
illest o.g.
alr so I'm not writing this post as a "come solve this problem for me" cause I'm obviously the one too retarded to decide. probably should've decided long ago anyway. I'm mostly writing out loud because this is something I should've thought about long ago but I HATE making decisions so, I'm doing it out loud to make it easier for myself ig lmao. but advices are 120% welcome. you guys definitely know better than I do on this matter. so uhh...

rn I'm actively and passively trying to make it as:

  • Full name
  • Arvin Armani
  • Lady Magnum
  • Orchestrate Everything
  • Rendez

that's about as many as I can remember rn
these one's are fine:
  • Orchestrate Everything is obviously my yt channel, diff story, all good.
  • Lady Magnum is a virtual band I've been planning to start for years, finally getting some concrete material this year (I have 2.5 finished, fully written & mostly produced tracks, waiting to be recorded). that's all good too.
  • Rendez is our lil "band" in Iran where we spit some goofy shit. I'll be using that for clickbaity songs that yk... throwin shit at the wall, may stick or not.

again these are all fine, no problem. where it get's tricky is here:

  • there's a film/tv/movie career I'm goin after in Iran
  • there's an underground, not-so-legal hip hop producer career I'm also going after in Iran (but not too much, just for the money)
  • there's a film/tv/movie career I'm going after outside Iran
  • there's a pop/hiphop/etc production career I'm pursuing outside Iran

iran tv career = bit tied to the govt, so, safer to use full name. + there's already 1 TV project I've produced for there which uses my full name in the credits. so ig it makes sense if I'm sticking to that.

then for film composing outside iran, I think I'm using Arvin Armani instead? I mean full name on this as well wouldn't hurt, but I already did use "Armani" on this 1 short film in Iran and unfortunately (lmao) it went big enough to be international and I don't wanna lose that credit. does that credit matter? is it really a sacrifice if I say "ehh, fuck it" and just use my full name on future intl films as well from now on?

if I don't, I probably can't use Armani for my hip hop career in or outside Iran, since no one wants a producer who's writing for harry potter & 50 cent at the same time. bear in mind I've already been involved in mix/production of like 50 60 tracks in india as "Arvin Armani". (also I don't want the brand "Arvin Armani" to be working with just any random ahh indian who's willing to pay. some random shit like "Aeezy-A" or sumn can do that while Armani is busy doing important things like rewatching singin in the rain with a both hands in his pants for the 20th time.)


So I'd suppose the logical approach is:

  • Film / TV / Legal music in Iran: Full Name
  • Film / TV outside Iran: Armani
  • Other Music outside Iran: New name
  • Hip Hop/Illegal music in Iran: New name (same as last)
  • Shit music: New New name
ORRRRRR

  • Film / TV / Legal music in Iran: Full Name
  • Film / TV outside Iran: Full Name
  • Other Music outside Iran: Arvin Armani
  • Hip Hop/Illegal music in Iran: Arvin Armani
  • Shit music: New name

also is one supposed to make whole ass social media accounts for each and every one of these "personalities"? I can barely manage my 1 account and even for that I have to use vpns n whatnot so much that zuck thinks I'm a bot. and I'll have to make people follow all my accounts? isn't that rude? lmfao












ALSO I've recently picked up painting randomly. a voice inside of me urges me to just merge tf out of all personalities and be like "yeah so I draw, I make fat beats, I write poems, I compose orchestras and I probably hate you. I'm one of those people. leave me alone, probably? maybe I'll cut my ear or something idk? wanna get fweaky with me? maybe some sex? possibly? please?" like yk, ludwig goransson it. or ludwig van vincent van goghthoven it. idk, I hate this part. I just wanna design hotels n nail it yk. throw shit at any wall I fw.

but then again, I have been asked "what's your style?" multiple times by professional people and it pisses me the fuck off. my style is whatever you're willing to pay me to do. if I was really just pursuing my own will & inspiration, u think I'd have been here to work with your uninspired sleazy ass? what can you do tho. your growth can't be noticed unless you fit yourself in a frame. you can't compete with infinity.

Fu-Huck! I hate doing this part so much lmfao.

anyway, side note, there's also Vanguard FM but that's not really a music "Creator". more like an illmuzik-sponsored occasional content creator. I've also considered creating a new yt channel for like... phonk gaming type beats with japanese girls on thumbnail for the sake of views & money n shit. idk.
You could just use a combo like your middle name and the name of the street you live on. Actually, that would be your pornstar name.

For music, don't use any combination of Lil, Big, OG, Beat(s), or multiple X's. And definitely don't become Lil Big OG Beat XXX.
 

OGBama

Big Clit Energy
Have @Armani one YT channel for everything and make playlists. One IG/TikTok. Go get ‘em Sound Sultan
 
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