Ideas for improving ILLMUZIK

[Armani]

@ArvinArmani This is mad confusing, I need time to understand it all, but it's interesting! I'll let you know. Thanks.

man i don't wanna be annoying you, and i know i am, but anyways @Fade it's been a half a month, and still I didn't get any info, you didn't tell me if those ideas were executable or not, neither the ones here nor the ones on 1v1 battles thread. please let me know what you think about my ideas, I'd spend hours just to fix all the problems with them, just tell me what the problems are, in your opinion. and please don't try to do everything by yourself.

 

[Fade]

man i don't wanna be annoying you, and i know i am, but anyways @Fade it's been a half a month, and still I didn't get any info, you didn't tell me if those ideas were executable or not, neither the ones here nor the ones on 1v1 battles thread. please let me know what you think about my ideas, I'd spend hours just to fix all the problems with them, just tell me what the problems are, in your opinion. and please don't try to do everything by yourself.

Sorry, I've been really focusing on some other stuff I'm about to unleash.

It's a great idea you have, it's just I need to set it aside for a moment while I focus on the other stuff like Youtube, Twitch, etc. The battles can happen it's just I don't want to spend tons of time right now trying to figure out the logistics of it.

You don't have to do anything just yet, it's just that I'd have to figure out how to automate those battles as best as possible so it can be done quickly on my end. For example, just looking up who has the most reaction scores and battle wins, etc, that's a bit of a pain to automate so it takes time.

 

[Armani]

Sorry, I've been really focusing on some other stuff I'm about to unleash.

It's a great idea you have, it's just I need to set it aside for a moment while I focus on the other stuff like Youtube, Twitch, etc. The battles can happen it's just I don't want to spend tons of time right now trying to figure out the logistics of it.

You don't have to do anything just yet, it's just that I'd have to figure out how to automate those battles as best as possible so it can be done quickly on my end. For example, just looking up who has the most reaction scores and battle wins, etc, that's a bit of a pain to automate so it takes time.

i highly appreciate that you care about my ideas, there's just one thing, the ideas i have are a lot, i mean right now i have 50 full lines on draft, on the 1on1 battle. so we got a LOT of ideas to execute right now, except not all of them are perfect, and you might not like many of them. so my request is that please, if you are doing anything related to my ideas, please let me know before doing it, please do all the ideas related to one topic (like twitch) along with each other, and tell us (or at least me if you wanna surprise people) before doing it, because when you surprise people with something like twitch, they get attracted, and once they get disappointed, they might never come back.
i know you was gonna do twitch & youtube and ... before i talked to u about it, and im not saying what you're doing will disappoint people, my point is that i got a lot of ideas, a LOT of ideas to share about twitch and stuff like that, and actual picture of the ill after the ideas are executed, is only in my head, so you might misunderstand some of the stuff, and that may lead you to not executing the idea, you know ? i dont wanna force anything on u, its your forum, i'm just asking you to let me help you and the ill in the proper way.
I'm nothing but a member myself, i just fear that the ideas might be burned away.

 

[itsSevenBeats]

I was checking the Illmuzik IG page, I think that you could integrate the website and instagram better, that would drive more traffic to the IG page and directly to the website/forums. For example, I think it could be a good idea to advertise battles and winners on IG as well, beat battles will always drive traffic to the website, and you'll surely get a percentage of users which are genuinely interested in the whole forum dynamics rather than the beat battles only. Also, say there's a nice conversation going on about topic X, a screenshot of some of the highlights of the convo could be posted on social media to attract people.

I'm definitely not an expert, still trying to crack this whole social media marketing thing, but it's surely as hell worth a try, the reach and exposure everyone can have is almost endless if you know how to use it properly.

Hope this could ever help

 

[Fade]

@itsSevenBeats Yes, that's the plan actually. It's been tough trying to keep all that going so I took a break from all of it. I want to get it all connected soon, it's something I'm working on.

What I have noticed though about Twitter and especially Instagram is there's more of a reaction when it's a video. I see that on other IG accounts too. Pictures are okay but video is king.

 

[itsSevenBeats]

@itsSevenBeats Yes, that's the plan actually. It's been tough trying to keep all that going so I took a break from all of it. I want to get it all connected soon, it's something I'm working on.

What I have noticed though about Twitter and especially Instagram is there's more of a reaction when it's a video. I see that on other IG accounts too. Pictures are okay but video is king.

Stories are apparently really important too.. the promotion service is not too bad, you gotta set your demographic and target audience right but it works ok

 

[Pug]

I'll chip in, as one of the early members of the site, a lot of the older core moved on, have families, interests change, etc, etc. The new heads gravitate to things they know like facebook, reddit, instagram, and especially youtube. Look at the view count on some of the tutorials and whatnot, and its in the hundreds of thousands. People have short attention spans, and like to get their fix fast and in the most efficient way.

I still am part of a few forums as I find it a much more personal experience, but I realize I am not part of the majority. I posted more often in the past, but now I am busy with work and family, so free time is hard to come by. I still check Ill forums some times and enjoy reading the posts when I can, but not like I used to in 2001! (damn, it's been a long time).

 

[TjombaBeats]

Well, I donated some money for illmuzik I like and respect the fact that this website is all about beats. Life certainly gets in the way especially work is something that requires a lot of time. I was a contestant for allot of beat battles but my points of beat battles didn't get higher recently. I mean I didn't win or anything but if I'm right you should get one point just to participate in beat battles (warzones). Just support this site any way you can cuz this one is a one of a kind. @2GooD Productions it's fucked up to hear you had a heart attack I hope you are doing better now. Shit like that always makes me speechless. Not long ago buddy of mine died because of a heart attack. I'll try to donate some more in the future to support illmuzik. We all are keeping this site alive even when hiphop changed illmuzik will always be there.

 

[Primz]

Hi all, Happy New Year as well. My thoughts on this is to do something like the link provided.

How about we actually hype people up? Get everyone on live cam sessions showcasing they beats and people watch?

 

[Memento Beats]

Hi all, Happy New Year as well. My thoughts on this is to do something like the link provided.

How about we actually hype people up? Get everyone on live cam sessions showcasing they beats and people watch?

If someone arranged something even remotely similar to this online that would be brilliant. But... it can be quite hard to make it happen.

First of all, people on Illmuzik come from different parts of the world and it could be difficult to gather everybody on live cams at the same time. I participated in Illmuzik Meet-up along with @Fade, @18thDynasty and @.calm and we experienced that when we tried to include @Bugsy which was impossible because of the time zone in Australia (cause Bugsy comes from Australia). And I think that time zones could be the main difficulty to overcome in this case. :/

Also I reckon we would have to use Illmuzik for showcasing anyway cause if we played it on live cam it could significantly hinder the quality of audio in my opinion.

What's next if someone agreed to this solution it would mean the end of anonymous battles which are supported by @Fade and are the trademark of battles on Illmuzik.

But the whole idea of online battle is interesting but would require a lot of preparation.

 

[Memento Beats]

@Primz and Happy New Year to you too!

 

[2GooD Productions]

this is what Ive been posting to facebook groups...

Ive been a member of this forum for about 15 years, Ive been a moderator for around 10 years. I would like to get some new blood in there and some good competition..

Are you a hip hop producer? Would you like to test your beats in the battle arena? Would you like feedback on your newest beat? Are you a beginner looking for tips and advice from a community of hip hop producers and beat makers? Then illmuzik.com might just be the place for you, regular beat battles, and an experienced community of producers who will give you feedback, tips and advice to help you grow as an artist. What the fuck are you waiting for? Check it out now www.illmuzik.com

 

[2GooD Productions]

First of all, people on Illmuzik come from different parts of the world and it could be difficult to gather everybody on live cams at the same time. I participated in Illmuzik Meet-up along with @Fade, @18thDynasty and @.calm and we experienced that when we tried to include @Bugsy which was impossible because of the time zone in Australia (cause Bugsy comes from Australia). And I think that time zones could be the main difficulty to overcome in this case. :/

Do it at weekends. When people are less likely to be working the next day. Just a thought.

 

[itzSAYKRIDD]

It isn't hiphops fault, hiphop is growing and still the biggest selling music.

Forums have died, people have Facebook groups now, people use Instagram etc, I still think forums are vital and need to be active again
I been on here a few days and I really like it but its very very very limited as its for producers only, you need to open up to artists more.
This is run awesome for producers with the feedback, the tournaments etc, make a section for rappers too... Go on instagram and twitter and promote the site to up and coming rappers who 0 fan base, new rappers who only just started out, this got serious potential

 

[Memento Beats]

It isn't hiphops fault, hiphop is growing and still the biggest selling music.

Forums have died, people have Facebook groups now, people use Instagram etc, I still think forums are vital and need to be active again
I been on here a few days and I really like it but its very very very limited as its for producers only, you need to open up to artists more.
This is run awesome for producers with the feedback, the tournaments etc, make a section for rappers too... Go on instagram and twitter and promote the site to up and coming rappers who 0 fan base, new rappers who only just started out, this got serious potential

This is a very good idea. Section for rappers would be nice. Also battles for rappers on the similar basis to beat battles that are organised here.

 

[itzSAYKRIDD]

Could even use beats provided by producers here.
Battle on camera if anyone has no access to a studio. Endless ideas

 

[crosstevsky]

I like the idea, we need rappers...

 

[YannFer]

It's a very interesting and important topic @ArvinArmani. Also I like your enthusiasm. As a newcomer I just feel the need to say that if the goal is to attract new (and involved) people to the ill, the rules must remain simple. Some of your ideas are very good and need to be thought about, but the implementation needs to be simple. It took me about an hour or so to go through the rules of each battle type and understand which is which. Overall ranking can be a good idea but we know who the top 10 will be and I doubt it will change frequently enough to get the competition entertaining.

 

[drex]

okay, If you really do care about illmuzik.com , please take your time to read this and reply, as its only to help illmuzik

I think the greatest thing that illmuzik lacks right now is loyal population, like @K-waz , @Danswift , @2GooD Productions , @DEEZ BEATZ , @C4NTK33P5T1LL , and many more that i forgot to mention, the members that most of us know, and at least talked to them once somewhere on the ill.

Actually the reason i wrote this was that last month, one of us had a heart attack and we were really close to losing one of our best people we have here, and that made me see if any of these people leave the ill for some reason, they wont be replaced easily...

This is why i say "Loyal" population. when you take a look at illmuzik, the first problem that you see is that illmuzik doesnt have enough people in it. that seems right but in fact, it's Absolutely wrong, If you look at the introductions forum you can see there's and immeasurable amount of members that signed up every year, but the only member we can always find in shoutbox is @OGBama , or on most of the topics the only guys that reply are @Drago Zetić , @ConspiracyMuzik and maybe sometimes other people than the ones i already mentioned.

The easiest way to understand what I say is taking a look at the forum topics Like this one, if u look at the right side, the most active member you can see is Fade! that's Horrific, and the problem i see in the first look is that most new members post 1 or 2 stuff in the forum, sometimes send beats to the battles and showcase and that's it, they throw the ill away like dirty toilet paper.

I'm not asking you to be active on the ill 24/7, if you're reading this you're probably one of those who care about the ill and reply to threads/shoutbox at least once in a while. what I'm saying is we need more guys like you, if only 5% of the members on the forum were as active as fade is, the ill would be Way, Way more powerful. (im not talkin about the necessary admin posts like posting showcase starter & battle results)

Now the reason i wrote this is to gather the actual members of the ill and the ones who care about it, to brainstorm on How this problem is gonna be solved. by the way if i didn't mention you, I'm sorry, i can't remember all names at once.

I personally gave some ideas for the ill before, like the battles timer and illmuzik on youtube, but still Imma research a lil bit myself and then give my own ideas in the reply section. if you found another way to look at the problem or even Any other problems that you see on illmuzik, feel free to mention it.

Thank you for reading this.

uh, youtube was my idea buddy.
I'd love to help build activity... participation... I have other great ideas too (like my youtube idea) lemme check the thread first tho, so I don't come off like some know it all who is above reading. brb

 

[Armani]

uh, youtube was my idea buddy.
I'd love to help build activity... participation... I have other great ideas too (like my youtube idea) lemme check the thread first tho, so I don't come off like some know it all who is above reading. brb

look who's lowkey mad cuz of no idea credit sorry man I didn't know. I just tried to improve the idea, that's what i should've said, cuz faid said he was gonna do the youtube thing before I said it too.