GET THE FUCK oUTTA HERE:CERTiFiED GANGSTAS

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Guevara

BETTER THAN YESTERDAY
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Battle Points: 34
GET THE FUCK oUTTA HERE: CERTiFiED GANGSTAS

GAME AND JiM JoNES.THEY SHoULD START A GRoUP WiTH GUERiLLA BLACK AND LiL' FLiP AND CALL iT "THE WACKEST NiGGAS iN RAP".
i HATE THiS SoNG So MUCH.
FiRST, itS A BLATANT JACK oF "BoYZ iN THE HoOD" PERFoRMED BY EAZY E.
THEY ATLEAST KNoW THAT MUCH.BUT THE CoMMoN SENSE SToPS THERE.
BESiDES THE FACT THAT THEY BUTCHERED THE oRiGiNAL SoNG, No oNES GiViNG CUBE ANY CREDiT For WRiTiNG THE SoNG, (NoTiCE i SAiD "PERFoRMED" BY EAZY E).
AND AS ALWAYS ANoTHER HoRRiBLE SoNG ACCoMPANiED BY A TERRiBLE ViDEO.
THE LoOK LiKE THE FUCKiN CHiPMUNKS.
GAME iS ALViN
JiM JoNES iS THEoDoRE
AND THRoW CAME AND HiS BiG ASS PURPLE T-SHiRT iN THERE AND YoU Got SiMoN.

GAME iS A CRAZED FAN WiTH A RECoRD DEAL.

WE NEED To RiD HiP-HoP oF THiS BULLSHiT
So To GAME i SAY, GET THE FUCK oUTTA HERE!!!

ENJoY YoURSELVES WiTH THiS oNE.
WHAT UP SHoNSTEEZ, GET WELL SoON HoMiE.
 

Tim D

Bitchn' Bout IRS
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 1
This is the worst song ive ever heard, and then when the chrous comes on, it makes it even worse than that, its terrible i hate fuckin Jim Jones and Game
 

eXampuL_oNe

LOW-PRO
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 21
yo, no lie... I got this dvd with Jim Jones and Santana and jim jones look like he's cracked out! He also seems real feminen, lol, fa real... It was a shock to me because when u hear him he sounds like he'd be a super thugged out cat... But anyways it's that new smack dvd, dont know if yall heard of this shit but its a dvd magazine that drops every month... If you see it cop it shit is dope as fuck! They got the heatmakers in there and they show like a 10 minute video of Rsonist makin a beat on the mpc... It got alot of other cats on it too..
 

berserk

Monster Music
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 33
na jim jones is aight... i seen another dvd... cam'ron tho... kid sits like a faggot... just sumthin i noticed haha... Certified Gangstaz is WACK... fuckin wack ass beat too... but yeah... i agree with pretty much with everything sed... and the diplomats are bloods aren't they?
 

BeAtArKiTeK

"Only God Can Judge Me"
ill o.g.
The best cat on theres is Jim Jones But they making bullshit music if Jim Jones Was hooked up with the right people he wouldnt seem wack
 

Guevara

BETTER THAN YESTERDAY
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 34
berserk said:
... and the diplomats are bloods aren't they?

THEY CLAiM BLoOD SETS, BUT AS A NEW YoRK RESiDENT i CAN TELL YoU THAT THERE AiNT No REAL GANGS iN NEW YoRK, PERiOD.
NEW YoRKERS RUN ARoUND PERPETRATiNG THE GANG LiFE BUT THESE CATS oUT HERE DoNT UNDERSTAND iT AT ALL.
iTS SAD THAT THERE ARE PEoPLE iN oTHER PARTS oF THE CoUNTRY (MAiNLY CALi) WHo LiVE THEiR LiVES AND DiE FoR THiS SHiT AND YoU GoT LiTTLE JUNiOR HiGH DUMMYS WHo DOWN CUZ THEY BRoTHER iS CoOL WiTH SoME NiGGAS WHo STAND oN A BLoCK SoMEWHERE.AND THEY Go BUY THEMSELVES A BANDANA FRoM THE 99 CENT SToRE AND NoW THEY FLAGGiN.
GET THE FUCK oUTTA HERE WiTH THAT.
i GoT No RESPECT FoR NoBoDY iN NEW YoRK CLAiMiNG TO BE BANGiNG.
 
ill o.g.
Could somebody tell me whats up with GAME?

I know he signed to Aftermath now. He's westcoast. Hes been shot. All that bullshit. But am i missin any important shit about him. It seems like everybodys hatin on him and nothins givin me a reason why i should be hatin on him.
 

BeAtArKiTeK

"Only God Can Judge Me"
ill o.g.
DOnt know he stays out here where i stay in cali word on the street is he dont like g unit ..but he still signed with them for some reason. Eazy is his most influential rapper and he plans on bringing the westcoast back. But thats weird how he dont like g uni he said they frontin specially 50
 
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DaFunkDocta2004

Guest
helix said:
Could somebody tell me whats up with GAME?

I know he signed to Aftermath now. He's westcoast. Hes been shot. All that bullshit. But am i missin any important shit about him. It seems like everybodys hatin on him and nothins givin me a reason why i should be hatin on him.

Because, for one, his whole image and motivation for the music is a SHAM that a lot of people are just BUYING into. It's really amazing!! People are being suckered into a rapper that only got into the game AFTER he got shot 5 times--once in the heart, which makes no sense---and studied "Reasonable Doubt", "Ready To Die", and "Illmatic" to learn how to rap. The reason I can't stand this cat is basically cuz he's a PHONY MC. He has paid NO dues, taken no wins or losses, no tours, no classics, no NOTHING as far as MC stripes. He's just pure fiction to me. AND PEOPLE ARE BUYING IT. This girl actually ARGUED and beefed with me when I claimed that this cat was a phony. Actually got heated over a rapper that didn't even have a banging--much less classic---single out!

Only thing is, Dr. Dre gave the fool a pretty damn hot track. "Westside Story" is a blazer, but I can't support a FAKE MC!!!!
 

djswivel

Producer Extraordinaire
ill o.g.
don't get me started on Jim Jones. He's the wackest rapper ever. I hate that song. The fact that these rich dudes need to claim theire certified gangsters now is really kinda fucked. And I was just wondering, where can I get certified?? Do I just line up at the gangster certification office, take a quick written test and I'm in?? Also, do I get an identification card claiming my certification?? I would hate to have no proof if someone asks me......:S FUCKIN WACK!!! JIM JONES GET THE FUCK OUT BITCH!!! AND THE DAMN BEAT IS WACK TOO!!
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 68
Guevara said:
THEY CLAiM BLoOD SETS, BUT AS A NEW YoRK RESiDENT i CAN TELL YoU THAT THERE AiNT No REAL GANGS iN NEW YoRK, PERiOD.
NEW YoRKERS RUN ARoUND PERPETRATiNG THE GANG LiFE BUT THESE CATS oUT HERE DoNT UNDERSTAND iT AT ALL.
iTS SAD THAT THERE ARE PEoPLE iN oTHER PARTS oF THE CoUNTRY (MAiNLY CALi) WHo LiVE THEiR LiVES AND DiE FoR THiS SHiT AND YoU GoT LiTTLE JUNiOR HiGH DUMMYS WHo DOWN CUZ THEY BRoTHER iS CoOL WiTH SoME NiGGAS WHo STAND oN A BLoCK SoMEWHERE.AND THEY Go BUY THEMSELVES A BANDANA FRoM THE 99 CENT SToRE AND NoW THEY FLAGGiN.
GET THE FUCK oUTTA HERE WiTH THAT.
i GoT No RESPECT FoR NoBoDY iN NEW YoRK CLAiMiNG TO BE BANGiNG.

Yo word up G! We got them fake ass wanna bees out in Jersey too. Most of these kids are in highschool and they rockin red shirts and bandanas,,,its just straight wack!

,,,On another note,,,I would love to have a one on with the whole Dip Set. They all look fragile ass hell. I wanna really smack the shit outta Jim Jones,,,he sounds so ignorrant!
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
DaFunkDocta2004 said:
Because, for one, his whole image and motivation for the music is a SHAM that a lot of people are just BUYING into. It's really amazing!! People are being suckered into a rapper that only got into the game AFTER he got shot 5 times--once in the heart, which makes no sense---and studied "Reasonable Doubt", "Ready To Die", and "Illmatic" to learn how to rap. The reason I can't stand this cat is basically cuz he's a PHONY MC. He has paid NO dues, taken no wins or losses, no tours, no classics, no NOTHING as far as MC stripes. He's just pure fiction to me. AND PEOPLE ARE BUYING IT. This girl actually ARGUED and beefed with me when I claimed that this cat was a phony. Actually got heated over a rapper that didn't even have a banging--much less classic---single out!

Only thing is, Dr. Dre gave the fool a pretty damn hot track. "Westside Story" is a blazer, but I can't support a FAKE MC!!!!

how does this make him a fake mc? dude got shot, caught up deep into what he was doing, and decided he would try his hand at spittin. he studied the classics.

so, the fact that he decided to get into this after getting damn near killed makes him fake? because he figured, you know, maybe rapping could provide a better way than slangin?

how do you know how many losses he took or didnt take? you his right hand to have that knowledge? dre said himself he made him wait a year before he started working with him because he needed work. he's a young dude; let him have a chance to build before you start calling him "fake"... OF COURSE dude aint have no tours or classics, he is new to all this. right now, he is earning his stripes... he's young.

by the way, im not really a game fan............. but here in cali bangin is REAL as ****, believe me i been on the wrong end of that business far too many times... i dont know about ny. i personally dont buy into the whole "certified gangsta" theme- thats got "negro please" written all over it, just by the title- just sounds corny, gimmicky. what, now gangstas come with a degree? what, they got a certificate documenting the number of bullets they took and beat downs they gave? did they get grades for that 2? GTFOH!!!! and i am in agreement with the topic.....

and to whoeever said "everyone is hatin and not giving me a reason why i should hate too"

well, if you need a reason from another man to form your own opinion... ima just leave it at that. have you listened to the music? then you would know and you would have your reason. if you like the music, then great, but people arent feeling the music and that isnt "hate" (well, coming from guevara it very well could be...), thats simply their opinion on the music. they arent feelin the personalities, obviously... and that isnt hate.

you cant dislike something without being a hater these days. its a sorry ass excuse for making wack music if you ask me. "oh, you just hatin, get of that hate, if you dont like so and so you a hater" and tahts the most crab mentality in hip hop, is that people cant accept the fact that everyone wont feel them, and so those people must have something wrong, they just negative people, it aint because my music is no good, never that.... tahts worse than hating, because nowadays......

"people are afraid to say when shit is wack, out of fear of being called a hater, imagine that!"- quote the great Talib Kweli, who ironically, gets pissed when his fans aint feelin his new shit.

ok, im going to officially be the worlds first Certified Hater. I'll fight you for the title guevara, what do you say?
 
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DaFunkDocta2004

Guest
Cold Truth said:
how does this make him a fake mc? dude got shot, caught up deep into what he was doing, and decided he would try his hand at spittin. he studied the classics.

so, the fact that he decided to get into this after getting damn near killed makes him fake? because he figured, you know, maybe rapping could provide a better way than slangin?

how do you know how many losses he took or didnt take? you his right hand to have that knowledge? dre said himself he made him wait a year before he started working with him because he needed work. he's a young dude; let him have a chance to build before you start calling him "fake"... OF COURSE dude aint have no tours or classics, he is new to all this. right now, he is earning his stripes... he's young.

by the way, im not really a game fan............. but here in cali bangin is REAL as ****, believe me i been on the wrong end of that business far too many times... i dont know about ny. i personally dont buy into the whole "certified gangsta" theme- thats got "negro please" written all over it, just by the title- just sounds corny, gimmicky. what, now gangstas come with a degree? what, they got a certificate documenting the number of bullets they took and beat downs they gave? did they get grades for that 2? GTFOH!!!! and i am in agreement with the topic.....

and to whoeever said "everyone is hatin and not giving me a reason why i should hate too"

well, if you need a reason from another man to form your own opinion... ima just leave it at that. have you listened to the music? then you would know and you would have your reason. if you like the music, then great, but people arent feeling the music and that isnt "hate" (well, coming from guevara it very well could be...), thats simply their opinion on the music. they arent feelin the personalities, obviously... and that isnt hate.

you cant dislike something without being a hater these days. its a sorry ass excuse for making wack music if you ask me. "oh, you just hatin, get of that hate, if you dont like so and so you a hater" and tahts the most crab mentality in hip hop, is that people cant accept the fact that everyone wont feel them, and so those people must have something wrong, they just negative people, it aint because my music is no good, never that.... tahts worse than hating, because nowadays......

"people are afraid to say when shit is wack, out of fear of being called a hater, imagine that!"- quote the great Talib Kweli, who ironically, gets pissed when his fans aint feelin his new shit.

ok, im going to officially be the worlds first Certified Hater. I'll fight you for the title guevara, what do you say?


I've heard enough of this cat---the Lame---to know this: a year is not long enough to proclaim one's self as a savior of anything. This cat isn't offering anything new to the genre. Nothing. Man, look, his motivation is not from the heart. It's from the pocket. How the hell do you get shot in the heart and live? This guy decides to rap after he gets shot. He said that himself in interviews, so I can give him credit for being an honestly fake MC. So, what was rap for him before he got shot? If he was really in it to be a "savior"...then he would reject that title and actually bring something new for the West Coast. But he's not. It's the Same S**t. No new flows, no new topics, no new feeling, nothing. I've heard the tunes. The mixtapes, the press, all of it. It's all a hype machine full of hot air. The bottom line is that this cat has paid no dues as a Hip-Hop artist, and it's a slap in the face of all the truly talented and hard-working MCs I'm sure we all know, as well as the ones who are in the biz and remain underrated...Black Thought, Pharoahe Monch, Del, Hiero, Bad Azz, Jean Grae, Medusa, and the like.

But, hey, since cats are STILL defending this guy to the bitter end...maybe I'M the crazy one. I just promise not to say "I told you so" when this cat disappoints every one of these "fans".
 

Guevara

BETTER THAN YESTERDAY
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 34
Cold Truth said:
how does this make him a fake mc? dude got shot, caught up deep into what he was doing, and decided he would try his hand at spittin. he studied the classics.

so, the fact that he decided to get into this after getting damn near killed makes him fake? because he figured, you know, maybe rapping could provide a better way than slangin?

how do you know how many losses he took or didnt take? you his right hand to have that knowledge? dre said himself he made him wait a year before he started working with him because he needed work. he's a young dude; let him have a chance to build before you start calling him "fake"... OF COURSE dude aint have no tours or classics, he is new to all this. right now, he is earning his stripes... he's young.

by the way, im not really a game fan............. but here in cali bangin is REAL as ****, believe me i been on the wrong end of that business far too many times... i dont know about ny. i personally dont buy into the whole "certified gangsta" theme- thats got "negro please" written all over it, just by the title- just sounds corny, gimmicky. what, now gangstas come with a degree? what, they got a certificate documenting the number of bullets they took and beat downs they gave? did they get grades for that 2? GTFOH!!!! and i am in agreement with the topic.....

and to whoeever said "everyone is hatin and not giving me a reason why i should hate too"

well, if you need a reason from another man to form your own opinion... ima just leave it at that. have you listened to the music? then you would know and you would have your reason. if you like the music, then great, but people arent feeling the music and that isnt "hate" (well, coming from guevara it very well could be...), thats simply their opinion on the music. they arent feelin the personalities, obviously... and that isnt hate.

you cant dislike something without being a hater these days. its a sorry ass excuse for making wack music if you ask me. "oh, you just hatin, get of that hate, if you dont like so and so you a hater" and tahts the most crab mentality in hip hop, is that people cant accept the fact that everyone wont feel them, and so those people must have something wrong, they just negative people, it aint because my music is no good, never that.... tahts worse than hating, because nowadays......

"people are afraid to say when shit is wack, out of fear of being called a hater, imagine that!"- quote the great Talib Kweli, who ironically, gets pissed when his fans aint feelin his new shit.

ok, im going to officially be the worlds first Certified Hater. I'll fight you for the title guevara, what do you say?

MAN i KNEW YoU CoULDNT STAY AWAY....LOL
i THiNK STAR iS THE FiRST CERTiFiED HATER.....oF STAR AND BUCKWiLD FAME.
THAT GUY iS JUST FULL oF HATE, WHEN i WAS iN HiGH SCHoOL i USED To LisTEN To THAT DUDE EVERY MoRNiN, HEARD HES PLANNiNG A RETURN To NEW YoRK.

AS FAR AS GAME GoES, TRUTH i THiNK YoURE JUST PLAYiN DEViLS ADVoCATE HERE, THE KiD iS JUST GARBAGE, HES BASiCALLY HERE To KEEP iGNoRANT HiP HoP ALiVE, AND i KNoW iF ANYBoDY CAN SEE THAT iTS YoU.
AND SiNCE WHEN Do ARTiST WHo NEED So MUCH WoRK GET SiGNED.
HE SoUNDS CoNFUSED LiKE HE TRYiN To BE THE WEST CoAST LLoYD BANKS, BUT HES JUST A LiTTLE ToO oBSESSED WiTH NWA.
HE HAS A "NWA" TATToO WiTH THE MATCHiNG PENDANT.
HE JUST A FAN oN THE oTHER SiDE oF THE RoPES.
iF HE EVER DRoPS i CANT SEE HiM GETTiN PAST THE FirST ALBUM.
UNLESS HE ENDS UP oN TVT WiTH JiM JoNES.
THEM NiGGAS WiLL PUT oUT ANYTHiNG.

i THiNK YoU GoTTA GET SHoT To BE A CERTiFiED GANGSTER.
i NEVER UNDERSToOD HoW PEoPLE BRAG AND BoAST WHEN THEY GET SHoT, i MEAN AiNT YoU oN THE WoRNG END oF THE TRiGGER TO BE TALKiN SHiT???
BACK iN THE DAY iT WAS ALMoST LiKE A FEELiN oF iNViCiBiLiTY To TAKE SoME SHoTS.
BUT NoW EVERYBoDY WiTH A MoSQUiTo BiTE THiNK THEY HARD.
THE NiGGA THAT SHoT GAME iS PRoBABLY SoMEWHERE iN CALi LAUGHiN AT ANYBoDY WHo EVEN BUYS iNTo THiS BiTCH ASS NiGGA.

"GiVE A NiGGA A BANDANA AND A SHiRT, HE FEEL LiKE HE APART oF SoMETHiNG"

GET THE FUCK oUTTA HERE!!!
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
lol, homie you are acting like i am campaigning for Game For President.... lets not get things twisted.

wake up son..... rap was, is, and always will be a way out for folks..... and that is a positive thing. there is a certain hunger that only comes from being desperate and in hopeless situations.

meanwhile, jean grae is crying somewhere right now, quite literally, because she doesnt have a deal. you dont thik that whole starving, slept on, passed over, too-smart-for-my-own-good story isnt her "5 shots"? how long have the roots played and ate off this underated/unloved by the label-but-respected-by-real-artists, we're struggling so bad we HAVE to tour constantly routine? thats been their "5 shots" for years, and they have carefully crafted these last two albums for demographics and trying DESPERATELY to gain mainstream attention. they went away from what came naturally and crafted some to intentionally appeal to the lowest common denominator... and failed both times.

i hear what you are saying, but the truth is that even the most impassioned artist jumps when they see dollar signs... game simply cut out the middle pieces and aimed straight for the top.

*to guevara, you know me well enough to see what i'm doing!
 
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DaFunkDocta2004

Guest
Cold Truth said:
lol, homie you are acting like i am campaigning for Game For President.... lets not get things twisted.

wake up son..... rap was, is, and always will be a way out for folks..... and that is a positive thing. there is a certain hunger that only comes from being desperate and in hopeless situations.

meanwhile, jean grae is crying somewhere right now, quite literally, because she doesnt have a deal. you dont thik that whole starving, slept on, passed over, too-smart-for-my-own-good story isnt her "5 shots"? how long have the roots played and ate off this underated/unloved by the label-but-respected-by-real-artists, we're struggling so bad we HAVE to tour constantly routine? thats been their "5 shots" for years, and they have carefully crafted these last two albums for demographics and trying DESPERATELY to gain mainstream attention. they went away from what came naturally and crafted some to intentionally appeal to the lowest common denominator... and failed both times.

i hear what you are saying, but the truth is that even the most impassioned artist jumps when they see dollar signs... game simply cut out the middle pieces and aimed straight for the top.

*to guevara, you know me well enough to see what i'm doing!


First thing, I'm my father's son, not yours.
Second, rap is a way out. But only one. When you have to act like it's the ONLY option, I get scared for my people. Snap yourself out THAT, "son".

Third, Jean Grae has a new album coming this month ("This Week") and another one coming out later this year ("Jeanius"), so...if I see any tears on her, it must be from joy.

For all of the ROOTS efforts--and believe me, I'm a ROOTS fan--Black Thought still gets slept on. If those attempts were such failures, why still be in the business? Because they love what they do, and their fanbase is loyal with good reason. There's no good reason to support a marketing gimmick like the Lame.

Another thing is...everyone wants to get paid. It's HOW they go about it that reveals who they are and what impact they can truly have, and how long they'll be here. There's no one way to make all the money, but I do know that everyone would like to make it on their own terms. The Lame put himself at the mercy of a marketing-hype machine that would never get off the ground if not for 50's precedent or Dr. Dre's "endorsement".

The Lame has cut out certain middle men...like hard work, taking some L's, getting booed off stage a few times, winning over fans in the flesh...but AT WHAT COST to us from the average consumer to the real Hip-Hop connessieur?
 

jaydub23510

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
HOW YOU GONNA WEAR BLUE AND RED TOGETHER IF YOU SUPPOSED TO BE A GANG BANGER? Tupac used to do that shit and look at where he is at, DEAD!! These fake ass studio gangstars need to go ahead with that shit, they leading the kids in the wrong direction, I doubt very serious if GAME was ever a real G, I mean come on the dude was on BLIND DATE that alone should tell you he's an ACTOR!! I respect JIM JONES (he's a funny dude) and the whole DIP SET shit for the fact they got a following of fools wearing pink and talking like they the Dips and shit, plus lyrically I understand what their talking about, but FUCK Game!!! Oh' Yeah that song was dope a remake of EAZY E's CLassic, I was a big NWA fan, but all of them from ICE CUBE to REN to EAZY were a bunch of fake gangsters, gangsters do it not talk about it!!! that's my word for the day, peace!!
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
there is no cost to you.... what cost? what price do you pay for this guy's exposure?

and yes, you are absolutely right about the roots.. but thought's gettin slept is his own damn fault. dude is so impersonal and shy of the spotlight it is damaging to his status as well as that of the roots. the day he develops a personality is the day he gets his due respect. he has no identity and people cant identify with someone who lacks a identity to relate with. as far as jean grae goes... she posts about how she breaks down in tears all the friggin time because she is soooooo slept on... and thats facts.... she'll be doing it again soon when these two albums go lead...

of course people want to make money on their terms. game is doing it in his terms, is he not?

as far as the dips....... cartoon ass rappers... fuckin caricatures of themselves, dudes will wear a rag, a beanie, a big ass hat with another rag tied on top of it. dudes wear costumes, not clothes...

but of course, i'm hatin now, right?
 
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