DJ Khaled...

[Fade]

I'm not saying it's right, but the reason why it's used so widely is because it's been used so widely in rap music. Rap music is insanely popular, everyone listens to it, they hear the n-word a gazillion times, they start to recite lyrics, their friends listen to the same songs with that word, so what do you think is going to happen?

It's such a common word now, that's why everyone uses it, it doesn't mean what it's supposed to mean anymore (not that it made sense anyway), now it's more like a "sup", "hey", or "word" type of word.

 

[Relic]

^^ LOL ookaaay but I still dont use it, it doesnt even feel riht to me to say it lol.
One of my friends who has passed now(rip) had been trying to get me to say it since highschool lol, I never would.

 

[God]

Getting back on the subject of the illustrious DJ Khaled. I know he hires Danjahands to make the music. From what I've heard, my opinion is that he's a cat that fronts the money, subcontracts another producer - like Danja (which isn't cheap) to make the hit, record vox, etc.

He probably tells Danja "you need a cymbal here" or "this kick ain't feelin' right" type bullshit. He gets the Exec. Producer credit because he's the money man and gave "input" on the record.

Anyway, he's done good for himself. I think he signed a distribution deal for his vanity label w/Koch. I heard that before Koch fell into the shitter though.

 

[MagnaOpera]

Im sure fade wont take offense.

Is this a joke or for serious?

 

[Formant024]

^^^ you're still fresh here hahaha

 

[MagnaOpera]

*more confused*

 

[LDB]

I hope you guys realize that the "WE DA BEST" was a promotional gimmick.....one that obviously worked and works well. It seems to have become a second topic of discussion here. Whether you like him saying it or not it works. Sometimes we have to take our personal feelings out of things and look at them for what they really are. It's a promotional/marketing tool that has really worked for him. Maybe something to study and apply to your next project. Name recognition is everything in this business!

 

[Vice]

I hope you guys realize that the "WE DA BEST" was a promotional gimmick.....one that obviously worked and works well. It seems to have become a second topic of discussion here. Whether you like him saying it or not it works. Sometimes we have to take our personal feelings out things and look at them for what they really are. It's a promotional/marketing tool that has really worked for him. Maybe something to study and apply to your next project. Name recognition is everything in this business!

LOL.. I understand it is a gimmick, but gotdammnit does he have to say it a million times? If he didn't say that shit, I would listen to his music straight up... I like the beats he has, and some of the songs are cool, but as soon as I hear him drop that throughout the track It's the stop button for me....

 

[MagnaOpera]

LOL.. I understand it is a gimmick, but gotdammnit does he have to say it a million times? If he didn't say that shit, I would listen to his music straight up... I like the beats he has, and some of the songs are cool, but as soon as I hear him drop that throughout the track It's the stop button for me....

I die a little bit inside every time someone is bumping anything khaled in the deville and he yells "WE THE BEST".

I can almost feel pussy slipping out of my grasp whenever this happens.

 

[Vice]

I die a little bit inside every time someone is bumping anything khaled in the deville and he yells "WE THE BEST".

I can almost feel pussy slipping out of my grasp whenever this happens.

LOL... I am far from a hater.... I seriously go out of my way to try and like something. I know people that have his album, and they don't like it either.... but whatever, I guess it was a good gimmick cause dude is making stacks.

 

[Sucio]

You can be considered a " RECORD PRODUCER" even if you never program a beat or play one single instrument on a record!

Quincy Jones has made an entire living doing so, so have many many others!

Here's some more food for thought. If all you do is bang out beats....guess what.....YOU'RE NOT A PRODUCER AT ALL....lmao...YOU'RE A BEAT MAKER. Nothing wrong with just being a beat maker but don't clown Khaled. He has in fact PRODUCED every record he's put out so has the infamous "PUFFY".

A record producer has many roles, among them controlling the recording sessions, coaching and guiding the musicians, organizing and scheduling production budget and resources, and supervising the recording, mixing and mastering processes. This has been a major function of producers since the inception of sound recording, but in the later half of the 20th century producers also took on a wider entrepreneurial role (meaning they actually started "MAKING" the music and producing the artist and song as well. Soooooooooooooooo, not having a damn thing to do with actually making the music and doing everything else listed above is what for decades a producer actually did!!!!!!!!!!

Only these fledgelings actually think because they drop'd a hot beat that a major artist or label "BOUGHT" that they've produced a song. The word "PRODUCER" has really been blurred as of late. Most of your favorite beat makers are know where close to being actual producers in the true essence of the term, they just "make" music.

There is reason Brian Michael Cox has won "PRODUCER" of the year 4 years running. Today he is one of the only RnB Producers who actually gets called in to make the music, write the melody, write the song, tell the artist or guide the artist in how it should be performed, arrange it all, sit in with the mixing engineer and have some input, fly out to LA with the mixed song to sit in with the mastering engineer and have input there to, then hand carry the entire project to the record label.

Dr. Dre he does that, Timbo he does that, The Neptunes they do it and in the south the only producer credited for doing so that I know of is DJ Toomp. DJ Toomp will tell you quick "oh, you can buy a hot beat from me and you may or may not get a hit with it, but if you want a guaranteed hit song you have to let me "produce" you as well"!

Preach on, brother....

 

[Sucio]

The N word....

I'm PR......and I call my close friends the N word......To me it's the context of the word......I've been around a lot of people during my travels who've said that word. It's almost a term of endearment.......

If I call you my nigga.....I consider you a dear friend.......if it offended anyone, I wouldn't say the word around them. Plain and simple.....

 

[Ominous]

If I call you my nigga.....I consider you a dear friend.......if it offended anyone, I wouldn't say the word around them. Plain and simple.....

::: Cosign :::

When I was young my Dad tried to break me out of saying it. A month later, he was saying it like the rest of us. I see different forms of this practice and behavior with other people using other words.

Like I know this one girl. She is cool as fuck. Loves video games and guns. Really into punk music. But... she is really fat. So I have been around her and her friends and they have said.... in front of me.... to each other... "shut up you fat bitch." Now imagine if I tried to get away with saying that? I can't use it because I am not part of the group. That is part of the way they identify with each other and I can't use that with them.

I guess, the idea is, it cannot be meant as offensive when it applies to the the person using it. As in the Pot calling the Kettle Black. I can't really try and hurt your feelings by calling you a fat bitch if I am a fat bitch too.

And I can't really be trying to make you mad by calling you a "nigga" if I'm a "nigga" too.

BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE... the question is why use it at all?

For me, personally, it is a way of just identifying with someone else. A sort of way of saying I have something in common with this person that other people don't. And it's a little more. The word is like a badge because it represents what people thought we were, and that we were nothing more than that. So in a way... it is like a one word way of saying, "we are in this struggle together."

And that is why White People or other ethnicities ain't supposed to be using it because they aren't a part of the group.

Best way I could explain it.

I don't use the word around other people out of respect for other people, period.

 

[MagnaOpera]

::: Cosign :::

When I was young my Dad tried to break me out of saying it. A month later, he was saying it like the rest of us. I see different forms of this practice and behavior with other people using other words.

Like I know this one girl. She is cool as fuck. Loves video games and guns. Really into punk music. But... she is really fat. So I have been around her and her friends and they have said.... in front of me.... to each other... "shut up you fat bitch." Now imagine if I tried to get away with saying that? I can't use it because I am not part of the group. That is part of the way they identify with each other and I can't use that with them.

I guess, the idea is, it cannot be meant as offensive when it applies to the the person using it. As in the Pot calling the Kettle Black. I can't really try and hurt your feelings by calling you a fat bitch if I am a fat bitch too.

And I can't really be trying to make you mad by calling you a "nigga" if I'm a "nigga" too.

Really well put man.

 

[Ominous]

Really well put man.

I have had so many discussions about this topic that it really made me pay attention to why I use the word.

I have been cutting back.

I know a few "high rolling professionals" out here and they do not use that kind of language. LOL.

 

[BobCarter]

I hope you guys realize that the "WE DA BEST" was a promotional gimmick.....one that obviously worked and works well. It seems to have become a second topic of discussion here. Whether you like him saying it or not it works. Sometimes we have to take our personal feelings out of things and look at them for what they really are. It's a promotional/marketing tool that has really worked for him. Maybe something to study and apply to your next project. Name recognition is everything in this business!

Props to LDB for the eye-opener.

This is so true. There have been plenty of commercials and other forms of advertisement that have used really annoying slogans to market their products. DJ Khaled is obviously in it for the money, as is the majority of mainstream hip hop nowadays. By using his annoying "WE DA BEST" rant in his songs, more people will talk about him negatively which will in turn, make more people listen to his music just to hear him say it, and in the end, will give him more exposure. Although I would classify this as a pathetic way to get negative attention by which to sell more records, I can't point the finger at him. Tons of artists/entertainers have been doing annoying and crazy shit to get more publicity and in turn, have more people listen to their music. The more I learn about the industry, the more it sickens me. But that's just how it is, and until the day comes where every top artist can promote themselves and their own music without the assistance of the moguls, I doubt it's going to change...especially not with the money the ignorant general public throws into the pockets of the corporate music machine. But as LDB said in another thread, "It is what it is."

 

[LDB]

Props to LDB for the eye-opener.

This is so true. There have been plenty of commercials and other forms of advertisement that have used really annoying slogans to market their products. DJ Khaled is obviously in it for the money, as is the majority of mainstream hip hop nowadays. By using his annoying "WE DA BEST" rant in his songs, more people will talk about him negatively which will in turn, make more people listen to his music just to hear him say it, and in the end, will give him more exposure. Although I would classify this as a pathetic way to get negative attention by which to sell more records, I can't point the finger at him. Tons of artists/entertainers have been doing annoying and crazy shit to get more publicity and in turn, have more people listen to their music. The more I learn about the industry, the more it sickens me. But that's just how it is, and until the day comes where every top artist can promote themselves and their own music without the assistance of the moguls, I doubt it's going to change...especially not with the money the ignorant general public throws into the pockets of the corporate music machine. But as LDB said in another thread, "It is what it is."

Exactamudo.....lol

I just look at things diff't than most here on ILL I guess. Him saying "we da best" doesn't make me hate nor love his productions. Everything dude drops ain't a gem but I don't think everything he drops is dodo either. He has some nice beat bangers on his team. I personally like The Runners. Hell I don't like "everything" "everybody" puts out, I hate some of my shit "after the fact", but I can respect the grind and the hustle at the end of the day. Some people look at these guys like the game was handed to them on a silver platter. Unless you really know these guys path you're only speculating. Most of them have been trying to do this since they were real young kids. Everybody's got a story to tell. They could have been doing a whole lot worse like sticking up ya moms at the local grocery store or raping your daughters! Khaled came from the streets of the N.O. ( if you know about N.O. there's no such thing as "the good side of town", it's all the slums) to rocking party's as a DJ to getting on Radio and having his own show to networking with top artist and producing his own shit. Now he even manages a couple top producers. Now those producers maybe "bullshit" to some but they're amongst the go to producers doing it right now. Dude is a certified "hustla" so he gets some props from me. Don't hate the industry, hate some of the players whom you probably don't even know that got things kinda fucked up right now. All is not lost though so many want to preach hip hops doom!

 

[Relic]

WHASSUP ,MY NI-watchyaselfwhiteboyyanotthatcool.

 

[Ominous]

^^^ Hahahaha. Nice.