Destiny child produced by 9th wonder (links inside)

MarkN

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N.A.R. said:
MarkN, keep doin what u doin if that's the way u do it do u baby...And how does either of us know how 9th got in? Juss because u heard 2 beats he made for DC, that's gotta be the way he got in huh? Well 1st off it's widely known that J has sessions with a lot of up and coming producers, im not sayin samplin is wack it's juss easy...and anything easy ain't gonna take u far...Man U just ttrying to make an arguement I didn't contradict myself, I said it was gonna b hard not impossible....Cats that sample make it easier for tha nonsampler to emerge, because while guys that's samplin is diggin for records not learnin any musical skills, U got some cat w an MPC and a keyboard on tha come up ready to blow....Ain;t but so many ways u can chop a record, but the skills behind tha keys r endless... Take it like u want it..How people gonna keep screamin Primo Primo, Primo been around since samplin was still new...not sayin he ain't hot cuzz he's blazin, but that's not a good example for arguement sake

I don't think 9th got a break with his destinys child beats i know he didn't he has been o nthe jay-z album and before that he had the little brother album, and hes done a lot of work with the justus league ! Im not trying to make an argument but in your previous post you did kinda contradict yourself ! People sampling doesnt make it any easier for non samplers to break through people will always sign whats hot you think an A&R man is gonna worry that this kid looped a record and can't play three blind mice on the keyboard if he knows he can put usher on it and sell 10 million records or woteva ! Theres a million ways to sample something you can flip a sample anyway you want there are no limits to it and looks how many records there are too sample from ! and im just using primo as an example, the stuff he does with records is amazing and theres people that just diss sampling outright !
Thing is at the end of the day its personaly preference this whole sampling vs synth stuff, tbh i have no problem with either i just happen to prefer sampling wot i do have a problem with is people who talk down on sampling ! I like synth beats if they are good, like lets take classic for example the guy can actually play the keys and it shows on the other hand there are producers out there who can play like three notes make tracks and then talk down on sampling saying its easy, well its fuckin easy to play three notes too but woteva !
Saying sampling is easy is far from the truth, i could give you saome hip hop tracks and the original samples and you still couldnt flip it the same way so.. !
 

N.A.R.

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I was with u all the up until that last line....dude don't try me like that...I know how to sample and play keys....Please...i'll bang with anybody out there.
 

MarkN

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N.A.R. said:
I was with u all the up until that last line....dude don't try me like that...I know how to sample and play keys....Please...i'll bang with anybody out there.

thats kewl then but if you sample i don't see why you don't show some more respect for sampling as a whole, i know the more i sample the more i listen to other people who sample the more i respect what some people do with it ! itsl ike graffiti in a way you can take it at face value and say oh its just a mess on walls and shit or you can study it and shit its an artform, the same with turntablism etc i guess its subjective in the eye of the beholder as to whether its theft or art !
 

N.A.R.

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I made a choice I was samplin and then I heard a beat that this cat made that he didn't sample on it was bangin, dude got me on keys....I ran thru NY figued out what music was all about, and decided I can make a lot more $$$ playin keys....I always heard cats I bumped into say..."yeah and he knows how to play keys", I never heard "yeah and he knows how to sample" I make commercial hardcore pop gospel records key word being commercial.....I wanna get paid...I keep samplin in my back pocket for a rainey day when I can't catch it on tha keys or if I go into a studio I'll be like yeah let me help u with that (samplin keys engineering) no disrespect but samplin to me is to easy for what I ultimately want to do....I don't want to recreate tha game juss play in it with what I can contribute...
 

MarkN

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lol thats cool do what suits you best personally i want be the kid who samples all the time, if your good enough you can make money woteva you do sampling or not !
maybe i'll have a new aim to get people who hate on samplers saying wot the fuck well i cant do that but i can play nursery rhymes on my synth haha !
 

JPeg

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9th has some incredible stuff and some boring stuff too, he needs to improve some of his drums and i think he has if u compare the listening with murs 3:16 u can hear the progression.

i gotta admit i aint listened to the stuff on here for a while but last time i did no one was fucking with 9ths beats.

respect to him, i agree looping may not be the favoured approach but if it sounds good, and u can express what u wanna express with it then why change just cos other producers dont like it?
 

gram green

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N.A.R. said:
I make commercial hardcore pop gospel records key word being commercial.....I wanna get paid...I keep samplin in my back pocket for a rainey day when I can't catch it on tha keys or if I go into a studio I'll be like yeah let me help u with that (samplin keys engineering) no disrespect but samplin to me is to easy for what I ultimately want to do....


you act like you mastered sampling talkin like that... you think pretty highly of yourself huh... i mean if madlib or someshit was sayin that shit i would still be dissapointed but would respect it... and if samplin was so easy for what you wanted to do wouldnt you just do it and become successful? ... or you tryin to earn the hard way ? ... sounds like you talkin shit to me
 

N.A.R.

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Gram Y are u on my every werd man,(in otha werdz my nuts), didn't I tell u it was ova? Let's settle it then, beat 4 beat....i'll sample a joint and u play keys, cuz ur'e obviously interested in ma talent level....Juss to keep us from submitting someone else's beat...U tell me what record to sample and i'll tell u what chords to drop, if not chill son really.....
 

gram green

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chill on what.. you comment on shit as if you commin wit some special knowledge someone else aint got... why dont you address my question instead of actin like a bitch all the time... did i say shit bout your skillz ho? no... i said something about the bullshit you talkin... but the battle that shits in a week so im sure you'll sweep it ..

if you entered it...
 

N.A.R.

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Yo im going to actually b in Denver on Dec 5th - 9th......Im gonna make sure I sign on to illmuzik, so I can make sure we meet up, while im out there, cuz I wanna see how many bitches and ho's Imma b then.....Obviously u ain't got no knowledge if u talkin bout producers don't pay to clear they samples.... I can tell by all that cosmo sht on ur;e soundclick u whack ...What u like 30 and u don't know this? Man I ain't tellin u who im werkin for out there.....Cuz I can see u callin like a million times.....No I said battle u son, don't change it, we both heard eachother's music b4, didn't we go back to back 1 otha time? Well make sure ur'e around 5th - 9th, so u'll no longer have to be an internet thug...I definitely ain't....I....Man it ain't 2 artists in Denver bout to drop nothing nationnally, quit lying, if there was my co..would know, my man said there wasn't nobody on soundscan comin from Denver, he would know about them.....Ur'e a fraud...and what part of denver they from tha burbs or that little so called ghetto part?...This is useless cause i'll put 100$ on it, when I get out there u won't b anywhere to be found....
 
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