Battle That! Competition - September 15-18, 2021

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DPrezd Beggar

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Battle Points: 22
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Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
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Battle Points: 645
the hook was basically a snippet repeated over the beat
it was a full on worded, sung vocal melody that lasted 8 bars each time it played.

If I got a bar of Nate Dogg singing, and looped it 8 times, that's not 'vocals' ?

If it was 1 bar, i could accept, or more like an actual snippet with an effect... but it's a full on vocal melody that lasts 8 bars.

To me that's a vocal.

Maybe time to start uploading beat tags and 8 bar choruses to 'no vocal' battles. Maybe steal a melody from a hit hip-hop record whilst im at it.
 
Battle Points: 153
it was a full on worded, sung vocal melody that lasted 8 bars each time it played.

If I got a bar of Nate Dogg singing, and looped it 8 times, that's not 'vocals' ?

If it was 1 bar, i could accept, or more like an actual snippet with an effect... but it's a full on vocal melody that lasts 8 bars.

To me that's a vocal.

Maybe time to start uploading beat tags and 8 bar choruses to 'no vocal' battles. Maybe steal a melody from a hit hip-hop record whilst im at it.
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Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 645
the hook was basically a snippet repeated over the beat
a snippet maybe something that happens once every 4 bars, or at the beginning of every few bars.

If we're allowed a full bar of vocals, the prominently feature for 8 bars and call it a 'snippet', then that definitely changes things.


occasional vocal snippets (but don't rely on them too much).
Can I have vocals in my beats?
No!
This is purely a beat battle. The whole point of the battle is to out-do your opponent with your beats. You can use the occasional vocal snippet, just like in the Beat This! Competition.
 

YannFer

The Mr Bernard Who Laughs
Battle Points: 166
Alright, guys. I'm beat #18 :D.

I understand the discussion about the vocal thing...
To me, since it's a part of the song I sample it's part of the beat itself, it's in no way comparable to an 8 bars "chorus" that would be toplined.
It's the chipmunk sampling technique, and it's part of the repertoire of producers like Kanye and Just Blaze to name a few. I feel it's a type of boombap beat, that was popular in the Golden Era of hiphop.

Thanks @Fade for saying it was fine. I'm glad someone shares my opinion on the matter.

Fwiw I drew inspiration from the song "oh boy" by Cam'ron, produced by Just Blaze, so yes, the vocal part is repeated over.

It's more than "occasional" so it's arguably infringing the rule.

It's funny though to be called out by the so-called "Discord Gang" who seems to know full-well each other's beats, thus infringing the "all battles are anonymous rule" :ROFLMAO:
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Anyway, the decision is to the voters and they decided I was out, maybe because my opponent's beat was simply better.

Peace y'all,
May the best beat win !
 

Iron Keys

ILLIEN MBAPPÉ
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 645
Alright, guys. I'm beat #18 :D.

I understand the discussion about the vocal thing...
To me, since it's a part of the song I sample it's part of the beat itself, it's in no way comparable to an 8 bars "chorus" that would be toplined.
It's the chipmunk sampling technique, and it's part of the repertoire of producers like Kanye and Just Blaze to name a few. I feel it's a type of boombap beat, that was popular in the Golden Era of hiphop.

Thanks @Fade for saying it was fine. I'm glad someone shares my opinion on the matter.

Fwiw I drew inspiration from the song "oh boy" by Cam'ron, produced by Just Blaze, so yes, the vocal part is repeated over.

It's more than "occasional" so it's arguably infringing the rule.

It's funny though to be called out by the so-called "Discord Gang" who seems to know full-well each other's beats, thus infringing the "all battles are anonymous rule" :ROFLMAO:


Anyway, the decision is to the voters and they decided I was out, maybe because my opponent's beat was simply better.

Peace y'all,
May the best beat win !

Wasn't beat 18 got the problem with.

When it comes to boombap/sampled records style, I'm a bit in two placed with it. In one way i listen n go hmmm it's pushing it a little. But it's slightly different. As that's part of boombap. And beat 18 vocal partsdon't persist too long.

I've had tracks tht have chorus-like samples vocals and i've been hesitant about using due to the rules.
But there's a beat in this battle with 8 bar continuous melodic vocal.

But like I said, if that's considered a "snippet" now, all bets are off.
 

YannFer

The Mr Bernard Who Laughs
Battle Points: 166
Wasn't beat 18 got the problem with.

When it comes to boombap/sampled records style, I'm a bit in two placed with it. In one way i listen n go hmmm it's pushing it a little. But it's slightly different. As that's part of boombap. And beat 18 vocal partsdon't persist too long.

I've had tracks tht have chorus-like samples vocals and i've been hesitant about using due to the rules.
But there's a beat in this battle with 8 bar continuous melodic vocal.

But like I said, if that's considered a "snippet" now, all bets are off.
Oh ok...
Yes, I see beat #23.
Well, to me as long as it's "part of the beat" and the rapper can rap over it, I consider it fine...
Like I said, everyone judges for itself if it's ok or not and then votes. If most think it's not ok, the beat loses.
 

Vossi Beats

ILLIEN
Battle Points: 238
You know, this been bothering me... when people say rules are for vocal snippets, it shouldn't mean full on chorus of a song and there are two in it now, one I didn't vote for because I thought the other was better and one that was better IMO but had too many vocals which seemed unfair.

I say this because what if other dude had a full chorus, it would add atmosphere and another level to it. I am just stating how "I feel", some might think its cool and all. Whatevs, just kinda got me bothered a bit.

Also, people stop plagiarizing artists music!! Wtf, gotta design some shit while dude just copies melodies, instruments and beats? Cmon, we're better than that.

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Wasn't beat 18 got the problem with.

When it comes to boombap/sampled records style, I'm a bit in two placed with it. In one way i listen n go hmmm it's pushing it a little. But it's slightly different. As that's part of boombap. And beat 18 vocal partsdon't persist too long.

I've had tracks tht have chorus-like samples vocals and i've been hesitant about using due to the rules.
But there's a beat in this battle with 8 bar continuous melodic vocal.

But like I said, if that's considered a "snippet" now, all bets are off.
The vocals of #23 was a part of the melody bro. Deal with it and stop feeling sorry for yourself. Fade said it was fine and last I checked he is top dog in here, not you.
What else is there to say.
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Vossi Beats

ILLIEN
Battle Points: 238
Ban for the 2 vocal beats, and let the opponents prevail!

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Truth is the vocals were inkomprehensable and it should be clear to everyone they were a part of the melody of what was meant to be the hook/chorus.
Given that the beat won that must have also been the case with more people than not since it got the most votes, and well it was just a fucking nice beat and I am sure who ever made it feels very good about it, and appreciate the fact that people enjoyed his product enough to vote for it even though the other beat was also kinda banging

Peace!
 
Battle Points: 153
I’m just playing around a little here ;)
But i did already have the feeling like ‘hmm’ these guys are pushing it..that sampled beat is straight fire, and the chorus is what gives it that ‘special touch’. Without it it would have been standing out less. You catch me fam? And it’s pretty hard not to vote for such a beat due to the dope style and feeling it gives, but in the back of your head ur like why would i vote for somebody lacking the rules? But not wanna vote for an opponents beat which beat is clearly not as impressive (figurely speaking).
I often thought about throwing in a little Texas chopped n screwed. But what happens if i pitch down a few words and line them up for the chorus? It would make a beat bang instantly. And an effective way to mask the repetitive melodie to make it catchy again. But hey,..in my book not allowed :p

Just eaz it down with the vocals in these contests next time fellas (y)

Already stoked to hear what’s next!

(better not be more vocals,
Or tags, or some dmx Eminem remix :ROFLMAO:)
 

DPrezd Beggar

Banned
Battle Points: 22
For me its just melodic gibberish.
VOCALS have to transport a spoken message in my understanding.

Imagine i record stuff like "BLAH" and put it in my beats, some dudes here would complain about vocals..

Imagine i record an album just with melodic sounding Blahs Blubs n shit.
NO FKIN MF in this world would call me a vocalist, ever...
 

TWU

The.Widely.Unknown
a snippet maybe something that happens once every 4 bars, or at the beginning of every few bars.

If we're allowed a full bar of vocals, the prominently feature for 8 bars and call it a 'snippet', then that definitely changes things.
Bro, are you serious? If you're referencing to beat #23, it's all gibberish and you can clearly hear that he/she used it as a background instrument, not a full lead or anything. Technically yes, it's a vocal. But in that case, you can debate whether any type of vocal is allowed. (Snippets, human beatbox, intro's, background audience noises etc...)
 
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