You guys will hate me at the end of this.

[djswivel]

when i'm making beats, sometimes i'll use a sample, but for the most part, I compose all my own stuff. But thats doesn't mean it's all club type shit. I really love making those emotional tracks, and just because they got some feel to em, that doesnt mean they sampled. I dont sample too often but I can respect producers who sample as long as they aren't jacking a beat. If you sample a few notes or hits, and re-sequence them to make your own tight beat then great. But i'm definately not a fan of the producers taking a whole 1 or 2 bars and looping it. Add some drums and bass and thats a beat? NAH, i dont think so!!!

I gotta give it up to The Neptunes (Yes there sound can often get a bit tired, but they dont sample ever. They sequence all of their stuff themselves. They're some really talented individuals.)

On the other hand, i gotta give it up to Kanye. He samples on just about every song, but he flips it upside down and inside out before any artist is ever ready to lay down a verse. Man's got skills!

 

[Haterade]

I can't even front, 90% of my production is based from samples, not loops, but samples.

Hell, all you mu'fuckas with Rolands and Tritons are using samples too.
(Look at your oscillator shapes, put them through a FFT analyzer and tell me they aren't...)

I have to debate with people about the art of sampling all the time. I mean, hiphop is based off the loop. Even the new stuff will throw loops at you, check Dr. Dre's "Tha Next Episode" on the Chronic 2001 and will anyone here recognize the BLATANT USE OF A SAMPLE. Nope, you all think Dre is dope. (It's a David Axelrod sample btw, but I'm not saying what artist it came from- do some diggin' niggas!) Teddy Riley made a career off sampling something, and then replaying it to fit his particular arrangement; groups like Portishead will flip an Issac Hayes sample and get major play from it- so no, sampling is not gone.

I look at sampling music as picking up building blocks. I make my own drums, but if I need a bassline, I either fire up the synth, or find a Bootsie record, filter it, and then cut the pieces I need to make it fit. Then if I need some keys, I might jump to Gil Evans, sample 4-6 sec, and then lace that in the puzzle. Maybe some winds after that- off to Yusef Lateef for a few notes- it's like just grabbing small blocks that eventually will make a new structure, a composition.

If you choose not to sample, great, let your musical expression rain from your keys/strings/etc. If you choose to sample, great, but please fellas, if your version ain't doing nothing new to the original, LEAVE THAT SHIT ALONE! (Just one of my rules- like Curtis Mayfield's "Gimme Your Love"- has anyone actually made a better song from than the original??? And how many times has it been sampled???)

 

[DjDelay]

I probably ain't gonna say anything that hasn't already been said but anyway. I think samplings cool, and it's a part of hip-hop music.

Some of the biggest name's in hip-hop today have made their best hits from sampling a couple bars from someonelse's record. - Dre most notably amongst others, and it was Dave Mcallum the next episode came from (everyone knows it!!)

But I do think that it's totally out of order when big name producers do not credit the people they sample. Because really this isn't sampling, thats stealing.

Sampling is all about how you FLIP IT. Look at how many times "Impeach the president" by HoneyDrippers has been sampled. I don't get annoyed when i hear someone using in their record, just aslong as it sounds FRESH.

I've got 100% respect for guys like the Neptunes and others who don't sample. But their whole sound to me is just too DIGITAL, too many SYNTHS. There's something you CAN'T get from keyboards and thats the vintage, analogue warmth that i believe is only attainable through sampling VINYL.

I think there's too many producers around, who are simply good at getting old loops and re-arranging them. Thats not producing, thats not sh*t to me. But they don't care 'cos they're getting paid major dough for it

My 2 cents

 

[fade502]

One the next episode tip... Don't forget that Missing Linx put that beat out in like 1994... The Dre Version is exactly the same with overcompressed drums and some filtering.

Whack or not?

I like both versions, so whatever...

I look at sampling like I look at Andy Warhol, is painting a Campbells Soup can art? I guess it is in the eye of the beholder. I really do think Hip hop owes a certain bit to the Pop Art movement of the 60's. I really is a collage or a slice of what life is like at a certain point in time. Listen to all of you old cuts... you can always tell what year something was produced because of the clothing refernces, car references vocabulary (what year where you hearing digity digity dig crap). Sampling is just another reflection on popular culture.

Also, it is just as hard to drop 'good' drums over a sample as it is to bump them from a Triton or Proteus.

 

[dae_rawk]

haha loser

 

[blaqcyde]

i agree wit holmzini...if it works it works. no matter if its a 2 bar loop over a beat or a chopped up sample...but if you do the 2 bar loop thing on every beat you do then thats not creative.

what even worse is if u take a sample and basically make the same beat as the original sample like p. diddy song "im coming"

 

[HCTarks]

chopping samples is fun to me =)