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Will Smith coming back? Taking shots at Eminem? LOL
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Before I say anything let me just say that I GREATLY respect Will Smith for what he has done. To me, his is one of the greats. I don't knock him for not using profanity because that is the more creative route.
It is quite evident however that people on this website don't give Em enough credit for being great. You guys talk about dick riding, but at the same time I think you all jump on each others bandwagons to talk shit about Em when I KNOW you guys listen to his shit and like it (at least his second album). Give the man some credit.
I don't agree that Em should have talked about Will in that song, but he was making a point. Isn't that how rap works?
Rhythm, I'm with you on this man, but remember you can't mention Em on this site without getting a "hater-like" response. Let's go listen to some Kanye...or open a thread about him.
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It is quite evident however that people on this website don't give Em enough credit for being great. You guys talk about dick riding, but at the same time I think you all jump on each others bandwagons to talk shit about Em when I KNOW you guys listen to his shit and like it (at least his second album). Give the man some credit.
I don't agree that Em should have talked about Will in that song, but he was making a point. Isn't that how rap works?
Rhythm, I'm with you on this man, but remember you can't mention Em on this site without getting a "hater-like" response. Let's go listen to some Kanye...or open a thread about him.
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Man your missing the entire point of the responees ,for me this had nothing to do with em at all, it had to do with rhymicats disrespect. The cat was saying stuff about will without even knowing the history of things.
As a hip hop head i respect EM and i know he has skills. Persnally i dont like him but i cant deny his talent
I think u missed the whole point(of my response atleast)
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Rhythmikal
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ill o.g.
like i care if people hate me coz im disrespecting will smith.
man sold out his hip hop career to act a clown in movies, thats what i dont respect. yeah ok maybe the money is better and more fame etc... but this is what i feel is going on:
1. Will never responded to Eminem's original call outs because he realised that it wouldn't be good for his career if a beef were to happen. Smart decision actually, coz Eminem was at his peak of his career and alot of American kids were followin him at that time.
2. Now after a long time without any real music, he's making a come back with an album where he's gonna actually say 'shit' once or twice if he pushes his limits. What better way to boost his new career than with a diss straight out to the worlds biggest rap star?
i got too much pride to like will's music, thats just me. listen to Willenium all the way thru, then spin a N-A-S record. u will see where im comin from.
sAfE.
man sold out his hip hop career to act a clown in movies, thats what i dont respect. yeah ok maybe the money is better and more fame etc... but this is what i feel is going on:
1. Will never responded to Eminem's original call outs because he realised that it wouldn't be good for his career if a beef were to happen. Smart decision actually, coz Eminem was at his peak of his career and alot of American kids were followin him at that time.
2. Now after a long time without any real music, he's making a come back with an album where he's gonna actually say 'shit' once or twice if he pushes his limits. What better way to boost his new career than with a diss straight out to the worlds biggest rap star?
i got too much pride to like will's music, thats just me. listen to Willenium all the way thru, then spin a N-A-S record. u will see where im comin from.
sAfE.
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Rhythmikal said:
1. or maybe he's just not down with the current trend of beefing with everyone and thier mother for the sake of it !
2. he never sold out his rap career, he simply does acting as well as rapping, lots of people have tried to make that transition some more succesfull than others, eminem has been in the movies as has ice cube and snoop etc etc
3. if you have too much pride thats your problem, no1 here has said he has the lyrical prowess of nas but he still deserves respect he has done a lot in his time a lot of the reason rappers get more commercial play now is due to him winning those grammys etc back in his day ! hey im not gonna go out and by his album i don't have any of his older albums either but just look at what hes done and give some respect !
I know its cool to be seen to hate on eveyone like he made a pop song *snigger* but come on !
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ill o.g.
Ya Man how you gon hate on Fresh Prince and Sellin out to become a Actor Stop SMokin Crack Holmes IF Will SMith was a Sellout he would of done it now when every Non Talented Rapper is trying to get in a movie or a Tv show
SO please Stop With The Wanker Threads
EzZz....
SO please Stop With The Wanker Threads
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Rhythmikal said:
if it wasent for "sellouts" like will smith who brought hip hop to the masses, there wouldent be a hip hop seen in the UK, and you wouldent be making hip hop beats.
If it wasent for "sellouts" like will smith you would probololy be listeing to radiohead or crystalmethod trying to make trance beats, talking crap about them.
this aint about em's skills this is about u being disrepectful and ignorant to the history of the same music your trying to create.
your biting the hand that feeds you.
learn your history man.......
class.....
P.S I think radiohead& crystalmethod are dope
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classic said:
Damn Class!!! LOL You on point though!!!! Next thing folks'll start dissin' LL.
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ill o.g.
damn class, you told him, and rhythmical if i saw you right now i would fuckin slap the hell out of you to knock some since in ya head, this is not about em, dude, i mean come on, will is tight his movies are good did you know how much money he made in bad boys 2, him and martin got 21 million for doin that movie more than em will make, what the fuck man i will always have more respect for will than em, don't get me wrong i listen to em, but only his second and third album and thats it, but will is one of the fore fathers hip hop, well to me he is, but don't step foot in america sayin that shit cuz you will get shut down quick
Im not trying to gang up on you......
im trying to gang up on u rhymitcal, casue ive talked to u in other threads an u see like a good hearted cat. But u have to realise that there is more to this hip hop ish then what is going on right NOW.
You have to seperate skills from history. On a skill level em probolly would beat will(but will aint no slouch either). But u gotta understand that if it wasnet for people like will smith, emiem would have never happend!
On a skill basis em can beat alot of people, but that dosent mean he gets more respect then them.
I mean lyrically EM is better then Run DMC, but does that mean that we just forget about what DMC did for hip hop just becasue they moved on to other things?? Do we just say Fuck DMC if they wanna come back and make an album and address certain things that were said about them????
I want u to really think about this man, casue as a hip hop producer(if ur a serious one) you have to know this history of your music and where it has been in order to progress.
This aint about being write or wrong i just want u to get the bigger picture......
Will smith can come out with a polka album for all i care, but u cannont take away from what he has done for hip hop, and black men in the entertianment business in general
Thats why i took the attack so seriously......
clas...
im trying to gang up on u rhymitcal, casue ive talked to u in other threads an u see like a good hearted cat. But u have to realise that there is more to this hip hop ish then what is going on right NOW.
You have to seperate skills from history. On a skill level em probolly would beat will(but will aint no slouch either). But u gotta understand that if it wasnet for people like will smith, emiem would have never happend!
On a skill basis em can beat alot of people, but that dosent mean he gets more respect then them.
I mean lyrically EM is better then Run DMC, but does that mean that we just forget about what DMC did for hip hop just becasue they moved on to other things?? Do we just say Fuck DMC if they wanna come back and make an album and address certain things that were said about them????
I want u to really think about this man, casue as a hip hop producer(if ur a serious one) you have to know this history of your music and where it has been in order to progress.
This aint about being write or wrong i just want u to get the bigger picture......
Will smith can come out with a polka album for all i care, but u cannont take away from what he has done for hip hop, and black men in the entertianment business in general
Thats why i took the attack so seriously......
clas...
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