Truth Told
((here is a question: when was the last time you spent years rowing yourself to your life as a slave in dank, rat infested ships chained to hundreds of others? when was the last time a cross was burnt in your lawn, when was the last time you were lynched? in all likelyhood, none of these things have happened to you))
That’s question has no base, that’s like telling someone who never did drugs to not care for drug attics, or someone who was not jewish in the holocaust to not help jewish people, I am against wrong bottom line…weither it happened to me, you, or anyone else…and considerinig it happened not only to us but my own ancestors, Of course I get mad when they put Japanese in interment camps, of course Im mad that uncle sam damn near wiped out the native American population, of course Im mad for what the white colonization of the carbeian nearly whipped out all of my west Indian arrowak/carib Indian ancestors….theres so much blood shed caused by them, and what really gets me is there so nonchalant about it, they don’t tell you this in text books they try and act as if the white man was the best thing in the world……you couldn’t tell me jack squat about black activist other then, king , x , garvey perhaps, but I bet you could tell me a lot about independce day…and its come to the point where those who go agansit the grain of America are called terrorist , palease….
((and as far as the jews, believe me, jews have been murdered in numbers far and above the 6 million from the holocaust. muhammed murdered millions of jews on his personal crusade... and to this day jews are not alowed within the borders of Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia (there have been VERY few exeptions to this), and they as a people were COMPLETELY driven out of their own land for quite some time.... and most nations would love to destroy them completely (wonder why it hasnt happened.. hmmmm... 6 day war anyone?) but for SOME reason they cant (nor will they)))
I think your wrong on this one, first off, the jews in muhamads time were not slaugtherd in the millions, they were killed but I think your exaggerating the numbers, in fact Qur an forbids murder of innocence people, Even the Ottman empire Muslims Let jews and Christians live under the Islamic rule so they weren’t Slaugtherd if anything they just had to pay a higher taxes then anyone else did, do to there non Islamic relgion…and that’s really where the conflict is not cause of the jewish ethnicity but cause they saw them as non muslim…
Your ancestors… as you say Christians, aren’t really your ethinic ancestors there more people who share your beliefs, I don’t think its fair for one to compare ones relgion to ones race, your born with your color and you cant change that, you can change your relgion if you want to be…… and if you really want to go there the Christian people that were enslaved in Africa all the way to the time of paul and near roman times were all colored people not white people…so Im not sure if you assume since you see a white jesus on a cross you can vouch for all Christian jewish oppression and keep in mind the people at that time (disciples time) were mostly jews who were another sect of the judiasm the phairssess preached….not the gentile mand made relgions you found today, and since were pointing fingers we could also point out the millions dead by Christians by the crusades, and also the Spanish inquisitions…..and even the white man who was teaching his christanity to native americans and those who didn’t accept were either killed, or tortured, and we can even go as far as the Christians who burned innocent woman on the stake just cause a accusation of being called a witch…. I don’t think its healthy to bring relgion into the point your trying to make…
((to paraphrase the bible ) and do what we can. the point being that we will never have world peace, we will never all be one people with one voice (until Jesus comes home) and we certainly will never all agree on anything (again, my church can testify of this!) but we still ought to strive for better understanding and relations between each other.))
I agree I think ignorance is to blame , Im not one to say all people don’t have struggles , I just think its wrong to look at ones bleeding arm and not attend to the wound…but to just point out another bleeding arm….to me isn’t right nothing gets done….I mean , think about it this way during the holocaust all we here about genocide is jews, jews, jews , jews, jews, right….well in 1916 one million armeinains were massacred by turks, 1932-1933 5 5 million Ukranians starved during stalins era…. 1978 1.5 million Cambodians killed by Khmer Rouge….1994 1 million Tutsi murderd by Hutu in rwanda……and even earlier you have idi amin who slaugtherd thousands of ugandins and where was America in all this, why is it that Mujabi is starving his African people in Zimbambwe yet America does nothing…aren’t they suppost to free people out of oppression, isn’t that there whole argument for Iraq , well gee theres been MILLIONS of people in oppression in Africa and no one gives a crap, hmmm I wonder why………..maybe cause there black…… and Like I said even the state of Africa as it is now, any historian could tell you one of the major contributing factors was the white colonization there…..it literally left that blast with nothing….and they had to resort to selling there own breathren..(and btw not all were sold some were stolen…) plus even when a chance for Africa to rise up a economic ladder with the discovery of gold , diamond mines and even oil in nigera, guess whos got a lock on that…you guessed the white man…… Like I said I don’t think it does anygood to try and point out wrongs..upon wrongs to justify ones wrong, its like saying someone killed someone got away with it, and since somebody else killed someone he should get away with it too…I appreciate your comments and if anything I just encourage those to chase knowledge for I guarantee you fi you don’t have it you wont make it in this music industry…
((here is a question: when was the last time you spent years rowing yourself to your life as a slave in dank, rat infested ships chained to hundreds of others? when was the last time a cross was burnt in your lawn, when was the last time you were lynched? in all likelyhood, none of these things have happened to you))
That’s question has no base, that’s like telling someone who never did drugs to not care for drug attics, or someone who was not jewish in the holocaust to not help jewish people, I am against wrong bottom line…weither it happened to me, you, or anyone else…and considerinig it happened not only to us but my own ancestors, Of course I get mad when they put Japanese in interment camps, of course Im mad that uncle sam damn near wiped out the native American population, of course Im mad for what the white colonization of the carbeian nearly whipped out all of my west Indian arrowak/carib Indian ancestors….theres so much blood shed caused by them, and what really gets me is there so nonchalant about it, they don’t tell you this in text books they try and act as if the white man was the best thing in the world……you couldn’t tell me jack squat about black activist other then, king , x , garvey perhaps, but I bet you could tell me a lot about independce day…and its come to the point where those who go agansit the grain of America are called terrorist , palease….
((and as far as the jews, believe me, jews have been murdered in numbers far and above the 6 million from the holocaust. muhammed murdered millions of jews on his personal crusade... and to this day jews are not alowed within the borders of Arab nations such as Saudi Arabia (there have been VERY few exeptions to this), and they as a people were COMPLETELY driven out of their own land for quite some time.... and most nations would love to destroy them completely (wonder why it hasnt happened.. hmmmm... 6 day war anyone?) but for SOME reason they cant (nor will they)))
I think your wrong on this one, first off, the jews in muhamads time were not slaugtherd in the millions, they were killed but I think your exaggerating the numbers, in fact Qur an forbids murder of innocence people, Even the Ottman empire Muslims Let jews and Christians live under the Islamic rule so they weren’t Slaugtherd if anything they just had to pay a higher taxes then anyone else did, do to there non Islamic relgion…and that’s really where the conflict is not cause of the jewish ethnicity but cause they saw them as non muslim…
Your ancestors… as you say Christians, aren’t really your ethinic ancestors there more people who share your beliefs, I don’t think its fair for one to compare ones relgion to ones race, your born with your color and you cant change that, you can change your relgion if you want to be…… and if you really want to go there the Christian people that were enslaved in Africa all the way to the time of paul and near roman times were all colored people not white people…so Im not sure if you assume since you see a white jesus on a cross you can vouch for all Christian jewish oppression and keep in mind the people at that time (disciples time) were mostly jews who were another sect of the judiasm the phairssess preached….not the gentile mand made relgions you found today, and since were pointing fingers we could also point out the millions dead by Christians by the crusades, and also the Spanish inquisitions…..and even the white man who was teaching his christanity to native americans and those who didn’t accept were either killed, or tortured, and we can even go as far as the Christians who burned innocent woman on the stake just cause a accusation of being called a witch…. I don’t think its healthy to bring relgion into the point your trying to make…
((to paraphrase the bible ) and do what we can. the point being that we will never have world peace, we will never all be one people with one voice (until Jesus comes home) and we certainly will never all agree on anything (again, my church can testify of this!) but we still ought to strive for better understanding and relations between each other.))
I agree I think ignorance is to blame , Im not one to say all people don’t have struggles , I just think its wrong to look at ones bleeding arm and not attend to the wound…but to just point out another bleeding arm….to me isn’t right nothing gets done….I mean , think about it this way during the holocaust all we here about genocide is jews, jews, jews , jews, jews, right….well in 1916 one million armeinains were massacred by turks, 1932-1933 5 5 million Ukranians starved during stalins era…. 1978 1.5 million Cambodians killed by Khmer Rouge….1994 1 million Tutsi murderd by Hutu in rwanda……and even earlier you have idi amin who slaugtherd thousands of ugandins and where was America in all this, why is it that Mujabi is starving his African people in Zimbambwe yet America does nothing…aren’t they suppost to free people out of oppression, isn’t that there whole argument for Iraq , well gee theres been MILLIONS of people in oppression in Africa and no one gives a crap, hmmm I wonder why………..maybe cause there black…… and Like I said even the state of Africa as it is now, any historian could tell you one of the major contributing factors was the white colonization there…..it literally left that blast with nothing….and they had to resort to selling there own breathren..(and btw not all were sold some were stolen…) plus even when a chance for Africa to rise up a economic ladder with the discovery of gold , diamond mines and even oil in nigera, guess whos got a lock on that…you guessed the white man…… Like I said I don’t think it does anygood to try and point out wrongs..upon wrongs to justify ones wrong, its like saying someone killed someone got away with it, and since somebody else killed someone he should get away with it too…I appreciate your comments and if anything I just encourage those to chase knowledge for I guarantee you fi you don’t have it you wont make it in this music industry…