Which is better for chopping samples?
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dahkter
Ill Muzikoligist
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I started fucking aroudn with Live last weekend, and I used the chop to midi feature. The thing is, it doesn't seem to chop at the transients. The chopping seems unintelligent, meaning I need to manually move the warp points around.
Can someone clarify how this works?
Can someone clarify how this works?
I have a tutorial on chopping with Ableton. It's a paid for tutorial...can't remember where I got it but if dig it back up I'll hit u up with it.
1) You have to know that if it's say an old soul joint that the warp feature will get you close but not all the way there. Why? Because live play instruments don't have perfect timing like you'd have in most of todays joints where we use a metronome and we quantize. They didn't do that back in the day.
What I do is make sure I get my first hit point with the warp marker, use the warp from here feature, then I go say every 10 or so markers and adjust to the zero plane and the next beats up swing of the wave form. Use your zoom feature so you can really see that up swing and the zero plane.
By no means is the Warp feature in live perfect, nothing out there will auto time stretch some thing that was played live with human error.
dahkter
Ill Muzikoligist
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 4
Thanks LDB, appreciate it. I am reading the Live Manual on my train ride to work + using the lessons that come with it. So far I'm enjoying it, I'm looking forward to having a new tool for music creation, got tired of my old rig (Mackie Tracktion + MPC1000).
I'm still using the MPC1000 the same way you are - as an overglorified midi controller. I have one program for the Impulse and one Program for the Drum rack.
The midi timing on Live is pretty damn good too. Tapping out and playing back an unquantized beat feels way better than Cubase used to. That's the reason I was using MPC for all my beat making, i always thought the timing on computers sucked.
I got all the drum racks....hit me up and I'll send them to you.
Please do. I plan on trying Ableton tomorrow night, I've got all night so I should hopefully learn a bit.
It has several built in tutorials so they should get u up to speed pretty quick. You seem to be a fast learner anyways.
^^^ Thanks dude. When I started making music, I didn't realise there was this much to learn, I was an outsider who thought it was just chop a sample, play a few piano keys and add a boom bap line. Shit's damn hard, I bet most of you dudes still learn new things.
I get excited when I learn something new. I can't wait to try it on other projects. I think my problem at the minute with production is that I keep getting bored of the same beat, so I just make a quick loop or two and move on to another beat. Any of you ever get like that?
True...If I knew half of what I needed to know I'd be rich! And if I knew it all this shit wouldn't be fun anymore. The quest for knowledge is one of the keys to being a good producer I think.
Well said.
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eldiablo
KRACK HEAD
ill o.g.
sometimes breaks are good. you come back and the creative juices are ready to flow. if not a break how about doing something totally different than you normally would. try building with different shit. go get a field mic and sample some organic sounds and mutilate them. or give sample (loop diggin) based production a run. i seriously dont think you would get left behind skid you got a good artist base as it is. i take breaks from production all the time. when i come back to it i always have something fresh for the table ya know!! when im on my breaks im usually writing or brainstorming the next project. that way when its time to start making beats, i got a whole notebook full of ideas and songs.
p.e.a.c.e.
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