When Layering Drums...

Shonsteez

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Yo i was just curious if it iz cool, or for that matter if any of yall actually just layer tha same kick or snare on top of tha other for tha added oomf, instead of using other sounds that often conflict when you really only want that one snare sound etc.????
 

Guevara

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hell yeah, it beats trying to turn the volume up to get the full effect, i double all my drums, except for hi hats
 

vitaminman

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Hey,

If I have a sampled drum loop, I usually always eq out the bass so that I can add my own; I like techno kicks, nice and hard which acoustic kicks don't give me. Also, it allows me to place the kicks on a different track in Cubase and have full control over its volume.

Layering other sounds is such a good idea. First, it helps 'mask' the fact that you're using a drum loop and makes it sound more original than just the drum loop by itself. Second, it allows me to bring in and take out sounds during different parts of the song, making it more dynamic, just like if a real person were playing the loop.

Take care,

Nick
 

Shonsteez

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thanks for replying you guys...I wasnt sure if using tha exact sound a second time was maybe a bad idea or not - being that maybe it rounds it out too much or whatever...But thats cool i got some feed back cuz for a while i was trying to layer other snares on top of my first snare to get tha layering effect but i jus wasnt feelin it cuz it made my whole snare sound totally different. (BD etc...)

If any of you have any specific advice for layering drums then shoot aiight...

Peeze...

Steeze

PS - Tha dynamics information was a real good thing to add V - Always coming with tha tech knowledge!...Gotta love that shit.
 
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MadScientist

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Originally posted by DueceMade Ent.
Yo i was just curious if it iz cool, or for that matter if any of yall actually just layer tha same kick or snare on top of tha other for tha added oomf, instead of using other sounds that often conflict when you really only want that one snare sound etc.????

If you layer the same sound on top of each other you gt a phase effect ...... it really doesn't sound professional unless your going for that sound. Its better to layer drum sounds that don't sound the same like use a nice clean 808 then add a rough dry ambient kick .... But make sure when you start making your custom drums you run those sounds through a preamp with some compression on those kicks and snares. It will have your shit sounding beefy.
 

Shonsteez

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Thanks Mad - thats what i meant when i said rounded out...it almost has a unison effect, like chorus fx with some drums - but others i havent been able to tell as much?....
Your recomendation of using a boomy kick with a dryer kick was actually what i was doing first - but i found myself eq'ing tha shit out of tha two drums due to levels getting changed as they both played at tha same time...I havent tryed compressing them after wards individually though...My only problem really was figuring out how to get more out of tha original drum which i specifically chose for its sound before i added a different deeper or dryer drum?
Are tha snare comparisons generally tha same? - - Like punchy and a dry stick/rim or something?

One last thing Mad...I know its different for every drum or situation when you compress - but i really always have problems with compression...So as a general rule of thumb - wher do you start usually on ratios etc. when you compress your drums?

Oh yeah...i only work with reason right now and various wave editors.

Steeze
 
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