What effects do you use to alter your sounds?

[Qwerty]

I wanted to know, what do you aply on your sounds, aside from Reverb. Cuz sometime I hear sound that I just plain wonder how they create that sound. Like that sound that starts in Numb/Encore . Or maybe, these really dark piano, I don't have an example for it another than Xzibit'song "Say My Name" There's a piano at the begining.

Another than Reverbering and EQuing, I don't know what another thing's good to do.

 

[Greg Savage]

Layering Man.. Layering Attacks from other sounds/ instruments.. just the Attacks..
I also use..

Phasers
Delay's
reverb's
Eq's

Just about Every FX i can Find that will fit the track.. but the only thing i dont use is the Stock Reverbs and Delays that the apps give me.. i always Make my own Delay.. EQ Reveb Patches Etc..

 

[Shonsteez]

Im intrigued what u mean by layering just the attacks of other sounds NN....I think i kno what u mean, but lets hear it!?

 

[Loose Cannon]

This is kinda a secret but kinda been widely used.
I got a guitar amp with some built-in distortion effects that can be adjusted. And it has a line input. If i just got an old guitar or piano or whatever sound, i put it through there and give it some distortion.

Other things you can do is, timestretch a sound to the extreme so you get that messy sound on purpose.

If you listen to the snare on aquemini (outkast), where it sounds like two snares right after eachother, its really just adjustin the pre-delay time (somethin like that, im not sure the exact name for it, but itsa in most computer programs, and i got it in my eps). But you can adjust it to get a lot of different sounds from a sound.

 

[Lex]

A couple of my friends left their guitars, amps and distortion/effects pedals round my house last time we jammed, and I did the same sort of thing...I recorded some hi hats and put them through a phaser setting on one one of the effects pedals, tried soem delays and reverse settings with delays too - I managed to get some really interesting sounds [That I've kept in mind] so I'm definately going to incorporate them into some tracks.

As for computer based effects [which is what I've always used really] I just mess around with the settings for FX in FL, as well as the envelopes of sounds/hits. I use the plugins and pocessing tools in Cubase just as much too - I think the plugins are really quite good and have a lot of really useful stuff for messing up and gritting up your sounds, like the 'Bit Crusher' etc. And you can edit the parameters for all the plugins quite a bit too.

 

[Qwerty]

Layering Man.. Layering Attacks from other sounds/ instruments.. just the Attacks..
I also use..

Phasers
Delay's
reverb's
Eq's

Just about Every FX i can Find that will fit the track.. but the only thing i dont use is the Stock Reverbs and Delays that the apps give me.. i always Make my own Delay.. EQ Reveb Patches Etc..

yeah me too, i don't get it , what do you mean by just the Attacks?

 

[sYgMa]

I already posted taht same question on another thread, but no one answered... Don't know why... so I'm gonna try the same question in this thread...



I always hear (or read) people talking about adding, changing the frequency, or processing the sound of a sample, or whatever you guys say it.... how the h@ll can you do that with fruityloops (or do you need another program?)

I know, for instance, that when people talk about Dre's drums (specialy the Kick) they say that he works a lot for it to sound thumping. I can hear it, but HOW? With what program? hardware? is it complicated?

What I do is superposing different kicks, snares, basses to get a different sound... and I play with the cutoff and the volume, but that's it... I want to go a step further.

I know a lot of people here talk about it, so you probably know how to do it. And please, dont talk theory... talk practical, please

 

[classic]

I already posted taht same question on another thread, but no one answered... Don't know why... so I'm gonna try the same question in this thread...



I always hear (or read) people talking about adding, changing the frequency, or processing the sound of a sample, or whatever you guys say it.... how the h@ll can you do that with fruityloops (or do you need another program?)

I know, for instance, that when people talk about Dre's drums (specialy the Kick) they say that he works a lot for it to sound thumping. I can hear it, but HOW? With what program? hardware? is it complicated?

What I do is superposing different kicks, snares, basses to get a different sound... and I play with the cutoff and the volume, but that's it... I want to go a step further.

I know a lot of people here talk about it, so you probably know how to do it. And please, dont talk theory... talk practical, please

Thats the thing man there is no set way, You definaly need another wav editing program personally i chop my samples and in soundforage and just mess with it till it sounds right, i dot know what the hell im doing half the time

class...

 

[Greg Savage]

I already posted taht same question on another thread, but no one answered... Don't know why... so I'm gonna try the same question in this thread...



I always hear (or read) people talking about adding, changing the frequency, or processing the sound of a sample, or whatever you guys say it.... how the h@ll can you do that with fruityloops (or do you need another program?)

How can you do it with FL? well you must know what ur doing you gotta know EQ, compression, gates not trying toi bore u with my answers but this is truth u gotta know this shit.. u cant just run ur sounds through something it and magically happens.

you gotta have some Skill i the Mixing field man there are plenty of Apps and hardware units that u can use to Accomplish this shit.. but if you dont know what your doing with em its a Waste...

I know, for instance, that when people talk about Dre's drums (specialy the Kick) they say that he works a lot for it to sound thumping. I can hear it, but HOW? With what program? hardware? is it complicated?

Its not a Special Program or hardware piece its your Mixing your Technique thats bein real.. it what sounds u use and how u use those Sounds and how u blend those sounds.
Using Preamp, Eq's compressors FX everything it all depends .. Listen closely to Little Johns Basses notice it has that Slight Modulated soundin it like its Moving.. the cat is blending like 2-5 bass to make it move that way.

Can take a Simple Moaning sound.. Harmonize it Thicken it Up.. resample it a few times each time with a Lower bit rate and i can use that as sick growling West coast
(its a process though)

I mean u can give me a Dre Track.. Acid 5.. some basic Mixin Features ( they normally come with ur multitrack) and a Preamp and i will damn near get Dre's Kicks myselff and im not pro Engineer its just knowing shit.


is it complicated? it is for someone that doesn't know the basics

What I do is superposing different kicks, snares, basses to get a different sound... and I play with the cutoff and the volume, but that's it... I want to go a step further.

I know a lot of people here talk about it, so you probably know how to do it. And please, dont talk theory... talk practical, please

yeah me too, i don't get it , what do you mean by just the Attacks?

just as i said, The Attacks of the sounds Example.. 50 cent album that 50 cent piece Spinning on what sounds like a Counter or table.. u can take the attack off that just that Whirl Sound thats it.. Blend that with a SNare (correctly) and u will have a bad ass Snare..



Laying is Nothing New its OLD AS SHIT.. but the Possiblities are ENDLESS you gotta be creative!

 

[soulkontrola]

nnxt whats the basic. and how do you learn it

 

[sYgMa]

I was going to ask the same question...

I'm not new to the game... I do make tracks and I do beats for MCs (not that that makes me a professional... I just mean I'm not a BG)

But I wanna go a step further... I was listening to some lounge music and, when you listen to that, as a producer, you gotta ask yourself how much time do they spend on the mix... same thing for Dre, Prime, Lil Jon (I dont like the guy, but he has skillz, regardless)... I wanna sound like that...

Do I need to read stuff (i tried, but it's always VERY theorical and not really practical), do I need to go to a special school (that would involve too much skrillaz)...

Make it clear, guys!!! Am I retarded ?!

 

[Greg Savage]

But I wanna go a step further... I was listening to some lounge music and, when you listen to that, as a producer, you gotta ask yourself how much time do they spend on the mix... same thing for Dre, Prime, Lil Jon (I dont like the guy, but he has skillz, regardless)... I wanna sound like that...

Do I need to read stuff (i tried, but it's always VERY theorical and not really practical), do I need to go to a special school (that would involve too much skrillaz)...

Make it clear, guys!!! Am I retarded ?!

nah you dont need to go to a Special School to learn to get that sound man.. alot of people mastering ad Mix from Ear.. never went to a School in there life..

I doubt John spends alot of time with his Mixing..because with apps like pro tools
Dp4.. plugins like Izotope and Waves.. once u get ur MIX the way u want it for a Certain style of Music (or a Few mixes) u can Make them into Presets so each timeu start a turn its damn near Mix... this is why its important to Make Quality sounds Kits Tweak your sounds have them ready to go so each time u start a Track u got that string nice and Gritty the way it needs to be or that Clap nice and Crisp ya know.. its all about having a good Routine.. Dre For example 20 years nigga got his mixing style down it dont take him long to do shit he can pop out 10 beats a Day most of em Singles and he been workin with the same Engineer god knows how long.. So he has damn enar all his sounds Ready to go little Adjustments hear and there then its off to the mastering house

Learn the Basics of Mixing if you dont know what that is you shouldn't even beat making music seriously

Just sit back Use your Ears

if u know how and when to EQ/compress/gate etc on ur Sounds you shouldn't have a Problem..

get a Nice Preamp and Run your Tracks through Preamp and Print them to get them fuller and Cleaner/warmer then go in and Edit them and go from there

Man i got fuckin tips for days hit me up

 

[sYgMa]

DAmn, that's nice of you, man! I'll holla at you for sure... I got a couple of questions regarding waht you said... as for the sounds... I could always use new ones!

 

[sYgMa]

I was thinking... actually, some of the answers to the questions I have to ask would probably help many other poeple who got the same questions but don't wanna ask them or who dont even know about the whole process...

Would you answer to them one the post? Or would you rather do it over emails?

 

[DJ Excellence]

EQ
Compression
Repitch
Delay

 

[sYgMa]

Well, I didn'T get an answer, but I'll put a question up here, and see if I get an answer to it...

As I recall from a former answer I got, compressing a song is like adjusting the volumes of different instruments so they are at the same level, and in a way that one instrument dont drown the other... Am I right? and if so, what should I look for, sound wise, when compressing? What is the actual effect of compression, practically?