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I still don't see the hype. Yes she is a very talented singer but for some reason I don't see her as a big big star, which she already is. Maybe is it her association with Pop Idol, i don't know.
Her album in my opinion was ok and nothing new. Sound wise it just fits in with everything else that is on the radio, albeit she must be doing it very well as people are buying.
Her album in my opinion was ok and nothing new. Sound wise it just fits in with everything else that is on the radio, albeit she must be doing it very well as people are buying.
I think vocally she has borrowed a lot from Mariah Carey, I mentioned her a while back to Relic, I didnt expect her to make it so large in the US, but with Simon Cowell keeping her back it is not that much of a surprise.
I wish her all the best, IMO she is the most talented artist to come out of an X Factor/Pop Idol show to date.
And she is gorgeous with it too.
I wish her all the best, IMO she is the most talented artist to come out of an X Factor/Pop Idol show to date.
And she is gorgeous with it too.
Personally I don't think any of the IDOL winners are really takened as serious successful superstars. Rubben, Clay nor Fantasia have just blown the public away. They have done well and most importantly they have made their mark by getting in the music industry, so I give them props for that.
Leone may accomplish more because she has a natural gift and she has the beauty to make it on the big screen. I doubt that she would ever make it to Mariah Carey status but it will all boil down to how good her management company is and how well they use her talents.
dac
Leone may accomplish more because she has a natural gift and she has the beauty to make it on the big screen. I doubt that she would ever make it to Mariah Carey status but it will all boil down to how good her management company is and how well they use her talents.
dac
is she certain she's British? she has good teeth.
hehe sory guys, just had to throw that in.
What so many people AREN'T looking at, which surprises me, is this. She is, in essence, a manufactured pop star. X Factor, Idol, Popstars, all those types of shows are made with one purpose. The aim is to find the most marketable vocalist with enough detachment from either genuine respect and appreciation for the song writing process (such as people who WANT to sing songs with minimal content or unique appeal, simply because they, like every 14 year old school girl, like that type of music), or someone who is absolutely willing, under all costs, to do what ever a record executive tells them to do in order to make a financially lucrative artist of them selves.
People dont look at the bottom line of these sorts of things. I dont know what its like in the States, or the UK, but here in Australia, even the producers of Australian Idol dont respect the singers. They're forced to sign a contract before being on the show stipulating that even if they dont win the show, Idol owns all the rights to any of the music they make for the next 5 years.
That essentially means, even if you are an integral singer/songwriter who makes amazing music... sure, you wont win because thats not what they're looking for, but an audience for YOUR market will seek you out and find your music anyway... all idol want is to captiolise on the sales and not have to do a thing for it.
I grew up knowing some of the people here that were a product of that kind of manipulation. Just so happens that I didnt like these people too much to begin with, but yeah. They made their music, and not much came of it.
hehe sory guys, just had to throw that in.
What so many people AREN'T looking at, which surprises me, is this. She is, in essence, a manufactured pop star. X Factor, Idol, Popstars, all those types of shows are made with one purpose. The aim is to find the most marketable vocalist with enough detachment from either genuine respect and appreciation for the song writing process (such as people who WANT to sing songs with minimal content or unique appeal, simply because they, like every 14 year old school girl, like that type of music), or someone who is absolutely willing, under all costs, to do what ever a record executive tells them to do in order to make a financially lucrative artist of them selves.
People dont look at the bottom line of these sorts of things. I dont know what its like in the States, or the UK, but here in Australia, even the producers of Australian Idol dont respect the singers. They're forced to sign a contract before being on the show stipulating that even if they dont win the show, Idol owns all the rights to any of the music they make for the next 5 years.
That essentially means, even if you are an integral singer/songwriter who makes amazing music... sure, you wont win because thats not what they're looking for, but an audience for YOUR market will seek you out and find your music anyway... all idol want is to captiolise on the sales and not have to do a thing for it.
I grew up knowing some of the people here that were a product of that kind of manipulation. Just so happens that I didnt like these people too much to begin with, but yeah. They made their music, and not much came of it.
All these shows show me is that now the wanabee artists are the new consumers. As if the market isnt oversaturated already, these shows seek to create more wanabees making it even harder for everyone else trying to get a peice of the pie. Nowadays there are so so many people trying to make it in music that the odds have become very slim for success, and they were slim enough before due to the hardware required to make good music. Now that pc's and software can do a very good job at making music, everyone is doing it.
Success is far from assured, so dont nobody pin all their hopes and dreams onto their music careers.
Let the music be a slave of love and who knows one day success MIGHT just happen, but until then stay dedicated, and true to yourself.
Success is far from assured, so dont nobody pin all their hopes and dreams onto their music careers.
Let the music be a slave of love and who knows one day success MIGHT just happen, but until then stay dedicated, and true to yourself.
the scene is very small for Australian hip hop, I've essentially been assured success in the industry here. Its simply a matter of time. I've never released anything, but I do seem to have some kind of notoriety in the local scene. Not trying to blow my own horn or anything. lol.
I guess it comes down to entering the right scene at the right time more often than not. I'm not the most technical emcee, but I do have the right connections to help me along.
Essentially, if you prove to be the genuine article, and are consistent, and persistent enough, success is almost imminent. You dont even have to have the most commercial friendly sound or the most talent.
Look at artists like Sage Francis, insanely talented lyrically, but lacking in a commercial friendly flow or radio friendly beats.
KRS One isnt the most complex emcee technically, and when BDP first came out, they werent widely respected, but look at him now. Though I think he does release just a little too much, lol.
I could keep on given examples, but then I'd be wasting your time, you already get what I'm getting at. Just make sure you do the live shows, put them on, put the music out, and calve your self a path to success. If your good enough, the people will catch on. Thats how underground movements happen.
I guess it comes down to entering the right scene at the right time more often than not. I'm not the most technical emcee, but I do have the right connections to help me along.
Essentially, if you prove to be the genuine article, and are consistent, and persistent enough, success is almost imminent. You dont even have to have the most commercial friendly sound or the most talent.
Look at artists like Sage Francis, insanely talented lyrically, but lacking in a commercial friendly flow or radio friendly beats.
KRS One isnt the most complex emcee technically, and when BDP first came out, they werent widely respected, but look at him now. Though I think he does release just a little too much, lol.
I could keep on given examples, but then I'd be wasting your time, you already get what I'm getting at. Just make sure you do the live shows, put them on, put the music out, and calve your self a path to success. If your good enough, the people will catch on. Thats how underground movements happen.
