Timbo and Fruity Loops Pioneering

bigdmakintrax

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Hey I remember an article about 2 or 3 years ago where Timbaland was using Fruityloops to construct a lot of his patterns, does anyone have or remember this interview? I think he was one of the First Hip Hop Producers breaking ground with Fruity loops aside from 9th and whole slew of producer now....
 

AMG

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eXampuL_oNe said:
yeah that was fl3, i think? It was the try again instrumental....
"Try Again" is one of tightest beats ever!
 
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I heard somebody say he uses the effects and sometimes presets from fruity, but i havent heard anybody say he uses the whole program. But thats just what i heard.

I really dont care what he uses, but it just shows how much skill you got if you can make shit like that off of a $50 computer program.
 
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MIKELABZ

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fl studio shouldnt be underestimated, sure its software,but it costs more than 50.00 though.
 
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MIKELABZ said:
fl studio shouldnt be underestimated, sure its software,but it costs more than 50.00 though.

I dont know, i bet you could find it used somewhere for 50 maybe. That aint the point though. Im just sayin that i didnt expect somebody like him to be usin fl. Just cause i thought it was for people startin out.

jus my opinion though.
 
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MIKELABZ

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Thats A Misconception People Have When It Comes To Software. They Gotta Realize Software Is Gonna Take The Place Of Hardware In Years To Come. Its Cheaper, Faster, Has More Options, And Its More Accessible. The Debate On Sound Quality Is Just That. Not Many People Are Going To Be Able To Tell The Difference.
 

Cold Truth

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software will never "replace" hardware; there is too much of a loyal following basically, integration seems more the future then anything.

and as far as fruity loops abilities...

ITS A SEQUENCER.

guess what? there a million sequencers, and if you give me any sequencer (and a day or so to learn my way around the interface) and a source for sounds, i can make anything just as good as if i made it on an mpc, cubase, reason, dr 202, whatever.

the thing people forget about are the fact that everything has its own audio engine, soundcards differ, outboard gear differs, effects differ from setup to setup, but ANY multitrack sequencer will do the job, harware OR software. shaping a sound, mixing, mastering, etc are all necessary elements as well, and those are elemnts that differ from program to program, machine to machine. roland COSM Effects are much different from waves, etc. they do different things. i would have a different sound if i were running things through a roland cosm box then i get using waves.

the sequencer, however, is fairly simple- press record and play, the rest is up to you.
 

bigdmakintrax

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Ok see heres where people get mixed up.......ever since I've know any sampler or drum machine I use it runs using the smaller version of software, an OS and firmware, it also has a microprocessor.....so theoretically for the longest there has been a hybrid of these two,,,,,,what happened is with memory that made the software more portable and thanks to Apple and Microsoft their OS's (oh yeah can't 4get motorola and intel processors)were a great home for that firmware to go to and live, and with all of the memory.....if you take your PC and put all of that shidd in a small box...(a laptop) you have the exact same thing except that lil 1.7 version of the OS that loads has suddenly become Fruity loops, or Reason Thats all....I think I brought this lil fact a up awhile back...almost 2 years...LOL ago but that threads long gone now...LOL
 
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MIKELABZ

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all im saying is this. cameras used to go around with stands, a cloth to keep the light out, a seperate flash, and a waiting period up to 15 seconds to take one picture. nowadays we have cameras in our phones that take pictures instantaneously. hardware is getting outdated and naturally software is becoming that next frontier of music making capabilities for hardware to jump to. its not rocket science, everything gets smaller as technology progresses. instad of having 10 or more peices of hardware alone, people are opting to have 1- 3 peices of hardware with software taking the bulk of attention.
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
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MIKELABZ said:
all im saying is this. cameras used to go around with stands, a cloth to keep the light out, a seperate flash, and a waiting period up to 15 seconds to take one picture. nowadays we have cameras in our phones that take pictures instantaneously.

Convenience over quality...Cheap vs. expensive. You can hardly match fine corel with a screensize resolution/bit depth, digital cams are cheaper to maintain and quicker to work with...Not better.

hardware is getting outdated and naturally software is becoming that next frontier of music making capabilities for hardware to jump to.

Outdated ? You check every big major studio, Westlake for example and count how many real digital pheriphals they rely on and use on the daily ? Like every other big studio, you'll find a rig stashed away in the corner for PT I/O or ISDN ...big deal ... a means to record with to digital...We're all already doing that. An engineer in the studio on a customer job...UAD-1 using the 670 preset.... An engineer in the studio his personal work... Real Fairchild 670.

its not rocket science, everything gets smaller as technology progresses.

Technology progresses slowly these days, no new superconductors and 9Nm. limit... I mean, my god...they cant even fit a G5 Dual in a laptop because due overheating... Overclocking crystals wont help you here son.

[/quote] instad of having 10 or more peices of hardware alone, people are opting to have 1- 3 peices of hardware with software taking the bulk of attention.[/QUOTE]

ehr...you might be right, but that's really personal preference or inablility to do otherwise. As far as I'm concerned, OEM's make great effort to sell you crap...Bits of promises and lite versioned performance of various features found on other OEM product catalog or a utility extracted from a former model fitted onto one box with one processing unit. A device dedicated to a single purpose has no performance issues. That goes for either hardware and software/pc. It's cheaper than buying each utility with quality...not better, the bulk of attention is due to the fact that everybody these days owns a pc, therefor a potential professional on a domestic applience. Those starting out with hardware or a genuinely dedicated DAW can be considered professional. Dedication is what makes the difference.
 
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MIKELABZ

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formant - after that quote orgy u just had i think u missed ur point and just opted to disagree and say random facts.
 

Jig Dagod

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MIKELABZ said:
Thats A Misconception People Have When It Comes To Software. They Gotta Realize Software Is Gonna Take The Place Of Hardware In Years To Come. Its Cheaper, Faster, Has More Options, And Its More Accessible. The Debate On Sound Quality Is Just That. Not Many People Are Going To Be Able To Tell The Difference.

I might have to agree with you on this one LABZ, I think about 20 years or so you'll see less and less equipment used. More software and VSTi. I mean you can get the same sounds for cheaper why wouldn't you want to use that setup. FL, Reason, VSTs for as long as I can use a computer.

East Ova...
 
ill o.g.
all i know is im gonna use whatever the fuck i like and can get my hands on, be it hardware, software, acoustic, or good lookin with a nice voice lol;) im a software guy too, but i know im gonna be getting some monitors, a decent soundcard (and much much more slowly hehehe) which is hardware, nowadyas, the two need eachother. all hose nice little digital boxes of hardware formant was talkin about have at least one ic chip in them with some type of software embedded, otherwise they would just be expensive boxes with knobs and flashing leds and little other functionality. and i know my software produced shit is gonna be sounding a lot nicer and crisper if i spend some decent money on some decent hardware, like monitors and a good soundcard at least, see what im sayin.

(in case anyone is curious, ive been drooling over the Alesis mkii (actives) monitors, and the maudio delta 66. should be gettin that shit sometime in the next few weeks :D)

PEACE
 

Javascript

Beatmaker
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LOL that AIN'T true. Everybody who purchased FL3 got a 'Try Again' Demo just a remake in Fruity Loops and the sounds were really sucking.
I remember a VST Calles Wasp wat as uses as the bass/melody
 
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Carpe Diem

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^^^ Lol word... That was just a lil remake to showcase what fruity can achieve...
 
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