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Old school hip hop (1979-1985)

As hip hop's popularity grew, performers began speaking "rapping" in sync with the beats, and became known as MCs or emcees. The Herculoids, made up of DJ Kool Herc, Coke La Rock, and Clark Kent, were the earliest to gain major fame, but teams of emcees sprang up throughout the country.[citation needed] Frequently, these were collaborations between former gang members, such as Afrika Bambaataa's Universal Zulu Nation (now a large, international organization). The Herculoids and other early performers focused on introducing themselves and others in the audience (the origin of the still common practice of "shouting out" on hip hop records). These early emcee teams often emceed for hours at a time, with some improvisation and a simple four-count beat, along with a basic chorus to allow the performer to gather his thoughts (such as "one, two, three, y'all, to the beat, y'all"). Later, the MCs grew more varied in their vocal and rhythmic approach, incorporating brief rhymes, often with a sexual or scatological theme, in an effort at differentiating themselves and entertaining the audience. These early raps incorporated similar rhyming lyrics from African American culture (see roots of hip hop music), such as the the dozens. During the early 1970s, b-boying more popularly known as breaking arose during block parties, as b-boys and b-girls got in front of the audience to dance in a distinctive, frenetic style. The style was documented for release to a worldwide audience for the first time in Beat Street but it could be argued that Flashdance offered the very first glimpse.[citation needed] It was also prominently featured a year earlier in both Style Wars and Wild Style, but whether these would be considered worldwide releases could be argued. YEAH

Next generation (1986-1997)



Popularization

The new age of hip hop began with the popularity of Run-D.M.C.'s album Raising Hell in 1986.[1] It was based in New York City and featured rappers and groups who advanced the wordplay, delivery, and subject matter of rap. Most of these artists were signed (at least initially) to smaller, independent East Coast labels, such as Def Jam Recordings, which became the first independent hip hop record label in 1984[citation needed]. Some of most commonly lauded rappers of the golden age of hip hop are Big Daddy Kane and Kool G Rap from Cold Chillin' Records, and Rakim of the influential duo Eric B & Rakim, whose album Paid in Full (1987, 4th & Broadway) is considered an important album of the hip hop repertory.

Ice-T had been a sporadically political rapper ever since his 1984 single "Killers". In 1988, Public Enemy released It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, which focused on politics from start to finish. The same year, Boogie Down Productions released By All Means Necessary, which consolidated the political presence in the genre. Both records pioneered a wave of hard-edged politicized performers. Meanwhile, Public Enemy's Bomb Squad production team, and those of other artists, pioneered new techniques in sampling that resulted in denser, multi-layered sonic collages on albums such as It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back and Fear of a Black Planet. That year, duo DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince (Will Smith) also won rap's first Grammy Award. However the duo was not present to collect their award as it was announced that the presentation of the award would not be televised resulting in a wide scale protest of the Grammy Awards by rap artists.

In 1988 and 1989, artists from the Native Tongues Posse released the first conscious hip hop albums, with jazz-based samples and diverse, quirky and often political lyrics covering a diverse range of topics (see jazz rap) and strongly influenced by the Afrocentric messages of Bambaataa's Zulu Nation. This would pioneer the way for A Tribe Called Quest's 1991 release, The Low End Theory, which has been acclaimed by critics and fans as one of the greatest jazz-rap albums ever, if not one of the best hip hop albums. Allmusic's John Bush described it as "one of the closest and most brilliant fusions of jazz atmosphere and hip hop attitude ever recorded."

Stylization

A number of new hip hop styles and subgenres began appearing as the music gained popularity. Hip hop was combined with rock music, reggae, techno and other musical styles during this period. Also, the mid-1980s saw the rise of the first major black female group, Salt-N-Pepa, who hit the charts with singles like "The Show Stoppa" in 1985.

Alternative rap and jazz rap, as well as a new (if short-lived)[citation needed] era of positivity in hip hop, and would set the standard for all alternative rap albums to come.

While Run-D.M.C. laid the groundwork for East Coast rap, Afrika Bambaataa's "Planet Rock" was one of the first electro tracks. "Based on a sample" (who knew that..a sample huh..lol) from German electronic group Kraftwerk (Trans-Europe Express), "Planet Rock" inspired countless groups, based in New Jersey, New York City and Detroit, among other places, to make electronic dance music (called electro) that strongly influenced techno and house music, and especially the burgeoning electro music scene in northern England, the Midlands and London.

"Planet Rock" influenced hip hop outside of New York as well, such as Latin hip hop (also Latin freestyle or freestyle), Expose and The Cover Girls, as well as Los Angeles-based electro hop performers like the World Class Wreckin' Cru (Dre in that glittery jump suit with make up, gay as fuck..lol) and Egyptian Lover.

Another important Hip Hop variant is Miami Bass, popularized by artists such as 2 Live Crew, J.J. Fad, DJ Magic Mike, and DJ Laz. The music is characterized by bass-heavy rhythms and overt sexual references in its lyrics. The genre is experiencing a renaissance, as its elements are being reused in Brazilian ghetto funk as well as Baltimore Club Music.

"Gangsta" mentality

Ice T's seminal "6n' Da Mornin'" (1986) was one of the first nationally successful West Coast hip hop singles, and is often said to be the beginning of gangsta rap. In 1988, rap group N.W.A. released Straight Outta Compton. This album helped to popularize the style of "gangsta rap", which would become massively popular from the '90s to the present. It also influenced countless rappers of the genre, including The Notorious B.I.G., Puff Daddy, Eazy E, Dr. Dre, Bone Thugs N Harmony, Snoop Doggy Dogg, and Tupac Shakur.
Dr. Dre's The Chronic (1992), a seminal album that redefined West Coast hip hop
Dr. Dre's The Chronic (1992), a seminal album that redefined West Coast hip hop

In the 1990s, gangsta rap became mainstream, beginning in 1992, with the release of Dr. Dre's The Chronic. This album established a style called G-funk, which relied heavily on samples from '70s funk songs and slow-paced, lazy drawl-laden rhymes. G-funk soon came to dominate West Coast hip hop. Though G-Funk was the most popular variety of hip hop in the early 1990s, New York's hip hop scene did not disappear and remained an integral part of the industry.

The West Coast hip hop scene during the early to mid '90s also saw hip hop legend Tupac Shakur rise to fame who, as an actor and most notably spending his time in prison, became the West Coast's biggest figure. His widely acclaimed Me Against the World and greatly influential All Eyez on Me still had a profound impact on hip hop throughout the 1990s. His death, along with that of Notorious B.I.G., saw a halt in the rap game and a push to eliminate violent themes from hip hop music.[citation needed]

The end of an era

While many argue that we are still in the golden age of hip hop music, most would say that overall quality of popular rap music has gone down since some point in the 1990s. There are many points in time which are referred to as benchmarks ending the era. Some believe it was the day when Tupac Shakur was shot and later died in 1996, others say it was the day The Notorious B.I.G. was shot and killed in 1997, and some say it was these and other events (such as the mainstream success and behavior of The Notorious B.I.G.'s hype man Puff Daddy which led to its demise some time later. Others point out the state of hip hop luminaries Public Enemy as proof that hip hop had fallen off. Others say the record industry's unfair treatment of musicians is proof that hip hop is an ailing movement. Others point out the fact that A Tribe Called Quest's last album was released in 1998. The phrase "Hip Hop Is Dead" has been thrown around by many artists much before Nas's album Hip Hop Is Dead. (He just based damn near an entire album on the phrase for it's shock value of course, I have another theory that need not be visited...lol.....wait..it already has)

New school (1998-Present)



Internationalization

By the mid to late 1990s, hip hop music was the among the most popular genres in not only the United States, but the whole of the world. Some argue the extreme popularity of hip hop around the world has strengthened it as a movement, while others see as the end of hip hop as an American entity. Its extreme popularity also sparked extreme egotism in the rapper's character during this period, referred to as "Jiggy/bling" rap music, sometimes consider pop rap ('Jiggy' refers to the Will Smith song Gettin' Jiggy With It, bling refers to jewelry).

Success and assimilation

In the latter half of the 1990s, the South would grow more popular among hip hop fans for wildly popular acts such as OutKast, No Limit and Cash Money Records. In the 1990s and into the following decade, elements of hip hop continued to be assimilated into other genres of popular music; neo soul, for example, combined hip hop and soul music and produced some major stars in the middle of the decade.

The future of hip hop

The style of hip hop vocalizations is changing, as it has before. It seems that more hip hop artists are using live bands and self-produced samples. The recent displeasure with hip hop has led to organizations such as the one at Spelman College as well as hip hop historians like Nathan Davis to speak out against the imagery that is being promoted, pointing to the continuous use of the "n" word, and the derogatory way in which women have been portrayed.
 

LDB

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HAHAHA

That debate thread cause a spark for a new thread??

OMG...actually NO. I just kept finding information that I thought would be good reading and i didn't find it necessary to hi jack dudes thread any longer. Comical question at best!
 

LDB

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Cats That Are Doing This Shit That Are Around The Age Of 32 To 42 Know The Lick...well They Should Anyway. Most Cats Nowadays Need A Freakin Class...they Need To Enroll In
9'th Wonders Class At Nccu And Get Schooled.

Actually a guy by the name of Professor Chris Parker, who's a west indian descendent and a Bronx Baby would be the ideal instructor imo. He also runs a school for hip hop.


HE'S A.K.A "KRS 1" FOR YOU SNOTTY NOSED PUNKS...LOL! (u must leaaaaaaaarnnnnnnn)
 

Low G

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It would also be cool to talk about other aspects like graffiti and touch on the whole b-boy/girl part a bit more in another post. Get ppl feelin the roots of the whole culture. Show em there can be alot more to it then downloading the latest hot ringtone.

Good post tho LdB... too bad the people that need to read it won't cuz it's long and they prolly don't even have the patience to wait a for a microwave dinner let alone read about history.

Peace.
 

LDB

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It would also be cool to talk about other aspects like graffiti and touch on the whole b-boy/girl part a bit more in another post. Get ppl feelin the roots of the whole culture. Show em there can be alot more to it then downloading the latest hot ringtone.

Good post tho LdB... too bad the people that need to read it won't cuz it's long and they prolly don't even have the patience to wait a for a microwave dinner let alone read about history.

Peace.

Whoa! Real talk Low. I can dig up some research on the other elements.
 

shadeed

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Whoa! Real talk Low. I can dig up some research on the other elements.

I thought this was a book report or term paper lol.

The other elements most def. need to be mentioned because it's impossible to tell the story of hip hop without mentioning b-boys and graf writers. I (and many other people that grew up around the way) learned to break dance waaay before even picking up the mic.
Rappin wasn't for everybody back then - you actually had to be good to rap (lol)

At least the Zulu Nation was in there but most importantly:

You cannot mention the origins of Gangsta Rap without throwin a shout out to Schooly D.

Good stuff - somebody is gonna read this stuff and learn something new.
 

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Actually a guy by the name of Professor Chris Parker, who's a west indian descendent and a Bronx Baby would be the ideal instructor imo. He also runs a school for hip hop.


HE'S A.K.A "KRS 1" FOR YOU SNOTTY NOSED PUNKS...LOL! (u must leaaaaaaaarnnnnnnn)
9th is more accessable for cats in the Raleigh/Durham area...but if KRS was more tangible...I would def get my schooling from him....WAIT! I HAVE BEEN SCHOOLED BY THE GREAT KRS-1...FROM 86 till atleast 96. 96 is the last time I purchased any KRS lp's.
 
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