The Devil

[WingsOfAnAngel]

"are u da guy dat came on here rantin bout how da beat comps here shud b split in2 sample area and non-sample area?" - https://www.illmuzik.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3560
your answer
that's the guy
but that was the past

 

[Kevin A]

This is just my thought, not written in stone

That is still a better way to assess skillz. It's like having a race (100 yard dash) person no.1 is on foot, no.2 is on a bike.no3 is on a motor cycle, and no.4 is in a car. Although the runner may come in last place, no one can make a fair assessment of who is the fastest, because they all did the samething (raced), but used a different method. There is just no reason to compete this way, for what? My mistake may have been thinking that the competition was to assess skills, making music by recycling other music is easy, anybody can make a beat that sounds good. Put them all in a pot a say battle, for what? what would would be the skill criteria? If the two groups battled each other, that would make better entertainment. And if the groups battled amonst themselves, then they could battle for skillz, because the center of each groups activity will be based on the same process of making music. In more simpler terms, it's like a fist fight vs a fight where one person has a gun, and one doesn't. The later doesn't promote growth. In a fist fight, you can see where you went wrong, get feed back from someone who saw the fight, practice, come back, and you have gained something in result of the experience. I was just saying these battles could be more productive if they were thought out more.
Don't take this the wrong way either, automatically place a type of producer on either side as to having a disavantage, because you can either be Good or Doo Doo at what you do. Everyone gets the disadvantage behind the scenes.
But I sure wouldn't mind to see the two methods battle, and I would participate in them as well.

 

[MIKELABZ]

the devil dont exist its a made up story to explain the turmoil in each of our lives. nuff said. Resume topic.

L-Rock

 

[afriquedeluxe]

so samplers got guns, and non-samplers got fists!?!

 

[Kevin A]

LOL......Naw that's not it.

I figured most people wouldn't see the circular aspect of it.

Originally posted by Kevin A

Don't take this the wrong way either, automatically placing a type of producer on either side as to having a disavantage, because you can either be Good or Doo Doo at what you do.

But for me, and my skill level, the sampler doesn't have the advantage. I can do everything he can do, plus what I do. Example, if you and I were both drawing artist. You draw your pictures from scratch, but me, I trace my drawing. Would you feel a need to enter a drawing competition with me? is it really competition? Only if you traced as well, we would be able to get something out of the competition, and that is who is the better tracer. Your skillz as a drawer could be so tight, that you just blow him out the water, but for what? With your skillz, of being able to produce proffesional quality work from scratch, you have a limitless possibility of ways you can create and innovate and bring to light something more apart of you. If you are tracing, you will have limitations, even if you have many option. My only bondaries is what I can't concieve. But I personally think it is a disadvantage to the sampler, because he will progress slower if at all. He cannot depend totally on his own skillz, and doesn't nuture that aspect in his music career. I know how to sample, that's how I first started, but I moved on to something harder, and more innovative in my perspective. I can sample, just like both of the artist would be able to trace, I just prefer not to, and it wouldn't help me grow.@Afrique

All this is said with a particular type of sample artist in mind, and that is the one that relates closest to the artist who traces. This is not about sampling, because there are 8 million ways to sample, but it is about the sample artist and how he does what he do.