Soundcards

Producer_GyaL

IllMuzik First Lady
I got a quick question. I bought the Saffire soundcard from Focusrite. For some reasons, I feel hesitant about my choice. I was wondering if you guys had to choose, which soundcards would you go with for your PC ??

Saffire (focusrite)

410 firewire (M-audio)

1616m (E-MU)

1814 (E-MU)

Saffire pro10 (focusrite)

Firebox (Presonus)


Thank you guys for your help.. is it pretty needed..
PG
 

dahkter

Ill Muzikoligist
Hey PG,

Is it for a Laptop or Desktop?

Me personally, I went with the Mackie Onyx 1220 with the free firewire card. I've had it a year and a half and love it.

A friend of mine just got a nice laptop and is also looking for recommendations, so interested to see what people have to say...
 

Producer_GyaL

IllMuzik First Lady
thank you dreampolice! 410 seems to be very good as well. I think im gonna keep my saffire. It was very expensive, I don't want to run a studio or something, that has enough entries. Thanks dreampolice and Dahkter for helping me out.

PG
 

Chrono

polyphonically beyond me
I use the 410 and love it. I also use m-powered protools for all my vocal recording which is a great environment to work in. But anything that would keep the output latency low would be ideal if your not plugging a "studio" into it. i get about 13ms at 512 samples with the 410 in Reason. hope this helped, take care ;)
 

AMG

God:Mind~Asiatic
I have a Presonus Firebox...it's nice, but sometimes the latency is f'd up at times. Maybe cause I'm using it on a laptop. It doesn't have enough inputs for me as of now(I have 2 synths, 1k, and 2 mics). If plan on going with desktop/latop combo then a Firebox will do you fine. If a desktop only, I'd go with E-mu 1616M, because the 1820(not 1814) has been discontinued and may no longer be supported by E-MU.
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
no, unbalanced is better because it gives more headroom but also implicates you need balanced cables and gear with balanced I/O...but its worth it

what i dont understand is the arguments for picking a card? All i see is hearsay while in specs the emu has the best quality and performance, which also comes with some degree of understanding of an inline console/inline mixing. If you just work with a pc for beats then you got a good card and its ready to runn, if you got a lot of gear to hook up then the card will point out why its such a good card.

If you got just a pc and a mic in your set, then this will suffice more then plenty (PT HD3 converters 24/192 and 2 high-Z trs pre amps)...if you got none of that whatsoever, just a pc and wanting to make beats with software then just get a good card for monitoring like the 1212M and a good set of nearfields.
 

thedreampolice

A backwards poet writes inverse.
"unbalanced is better because it gives more headroom" Not true
http://www.harmony-central.com/articles/tips/balanced_vs_unbalanced/

"while in specs the emu has the best quality and performance" Numbers dont make a sound card better. Maudio has better AD/DA convertors and Drivers than EMU

Being able to run pro tools with Maudio stuff is also a big advantage.

"is on the m-audio 1010LT the unbalanced rca a problem for noise recordings"
no it sounds great, check out the songs on my site that I recorded for "fourth Time around" Every thing was recorded with a 1010lt http://www.chrisscheidies.com/?q=node/62

I have now switched to an 18/14 and its great as well.
 

Symphonic

Custom User Title
no, unbalanced is better because it gives more headroom but also implicates you need balanced cables and gear with balanced I/O...but its worth it

what i dont understand is the arguments for picking a card? All i see is hearsay while in specs the emu has the best quality and performance, which also comes with some degree of understanding of an inline console/inline mixing. If you just work with a pc for beats then you got a good card and its ready to runn, if you got a lot of gear to hook up then the card will point out why its such a good card.

If you got just a pc and a mic in your set, then this will suffice more then plenty (PT HD3 converters 24/192 and 2 high-Z trs pre amps)...if you got none of that whatsoever, just a pc and wanting to make beats with software then just get a good card for monitoring like the 1212M and a good set of nearfields.

It's for recording beats made on the mpc 1000, so i need at least 6 chanels + 2 for my mixer/turntable for scratches, i dont want to switch cables so that why i planned buying an 1010LT, so i can use it with protools.
 

Formant024

Digital Smokerings
oke, its not a neccesity to have your setup balanced, the point in the article where i can say is crap is the fact that balanced cables are good for long distances, like the ever so brilliant mogami would be great for 30feet cable (x24)x4+ signaling to patchbay I/Os and patch cords, i dont want that bill lol. We measured mogami, its best (outstanding) performance is a cable no less than 1m(3ft.) with goldplated neutrik, 2m is perfectly exceptable but not as hi classified as we thought. Anyway, the significance arrizes when you have a 24 chnl inline setup and trying to gain more headroom, we just overhauled our console for a balanced setup and switched from rme to motu. On the first test drive i noticed the sound wasnt that much louder but i did notice more detail in the sound. I dont think a bedroom techie would hear the difference, nor have the use for it as not many really use a lot of hardware unless you record bands or buy high end analogues.
 
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