Sound Modules/MIDI

[Loose Cannon]

All of my beats are sampled beats. I have done barely any beats with synths in it. I can play the keyboard/piano and all that, its just the midi shit that gets me confused. Im really tryin to get into makin synth beats right now though, cuz i always got shit in my head that i can beatbox all day but i cant put it into a beat cuz i dont have any synth sounds. So i got a couple questions for people who know somethin aboiut sound modules (im usin an eps16+ right now but im lookin at gettin an 2kxl and a module) (i know bigd and class could help me with this):


-I played with a cheap casio keyboard hooked up through midi to my eps, and i could make different sequences with it fine, but if i did a loop with the organ in the casio, then i tried to do a different loop with the bells in the casio, it wouldnt let me. It would only let me be on one instrument at a time. Most modules arent like that, right? And why dos it do that.

-Say i got an mpc and a module, and i do my whole beat with all these different sounds and i tweak all the sounds to sound how i want them to. I know you dont just re-edit all your sounds all over againif you wanna load the beat up later. How do sound modules save its info.

-Im lookin for a cheap module just to get started with. I aint talkin bout a triton or motif or fantom rack. I mean under $300. I just want somethin that has realistic sounds or whatever. Its hard to explain. I just dont want nothin cheap. I dont wanna listen back and say that dont even sound nothin like a saxophone. Its cool if it has some microkorg soundin instruments where nothin sounds like a real instrument. just somethin clean. let me know if you understand.


help


thanks

 

[bigdmakintrax]

Its called saving your program, the mpc will work fine for that.....midi has program numbers assigned to the sounds, you can set up the MPC so each channel is dedicated to the sound or program off of the module or keyboard, you need to have your midi channels set up to receive and trasmit too, either triggered externally or internally, when you save your sequence on the MPC and have set up the program function to YES, when you reload the sequence it should automatically call up the assigned sound......there is something call multi and poly too.....whether you want to transmit 1 channel or multiple ones........that is just a surface explanation there is a lot more to it than that......too bad Fade archived some of the forum stuff from like a year and half or so, we used to have a lot more discussions about midi on here a lot and I probably have used more than a few paragraphs to detail everything you need to know....you can search around for midio articles though you should get some info!!!

 

[Cold Truth]

under $300... cop a used jv 1010. that should get you what yuo need.

 

[Loose Cannon]

thanks for the info.

 

[classic]

Yep big D pretty much covered it the overall process, Since u helped me out alot when i first got started I will get into the details for ya.

The 2xl has 2 midi outs each with as u already know each MIDI can carry 16 channels, so u hook your sound module up to one of those MIDI outs you can play different sounds on your rack at once. You "dial up: the MIDI channel but choosing the approate channel on your rack and MPC at the same time. (I think u said ur getting the 1000 , in this aspect the 2k and the 1000 are identical)

Note that the MPC has 2 MIDI outs A and B

Each can have 16 channels the default names are
For A
MIDI: 1A-device 01
MIDI: 2A device 02
Etc….
MIDI 16A device16

Your B port works in the same way expect there is a B where the A is so it would look like this
MIDI:1B-device 17 (note since A has 1-16, B starts at 17)


If I have a piano on MIDI channel 1 on my rack, i go to the track on the MPC which i want to record the MIDI data for that the piano then i set the MIDI program on that track to
MIDI:1A-device 01

SO when i play a key on my MIDI controller(which is plugged into My MPC MIDI in) That sound is triggered on my rack and i hear that piano play from my module. Note that when i record on that track, its just the MIDI data, that MPC only triggers the sound in the rack. "thats why u need a mixer to hear your sounds from your MPC and your rack(s) at the same time”.

If I have a trumpet on selected on channel 2 of my rack and i want to record a track on my MPC
I set the MPC to the track i want to record and then i select MIDI program for that track to.

MIDI: 2A device 2
Now when i play my keyboard the trumpet is played

As far as saving things,
The motif stores voices as numbers , so i usually rename the MIDI track on the MPC to correspond to that voice, for example a piano sound on the motif is in bank 1-63-0
So i will usually rename the track MIDI program on my MPC correspond to that number
Before renaming here is how it would look the piano track would look on my MPC


Tr:01-piano
S:MIDI: 1Adevice01

After I rename the program

Tr:01-piano
S:MIDI: 1A-1-63-0

So u can now save you stuff you sequence an you will have all your stuff ready to go of u need to dial it up


The Racks
with the motif ( and most modern racks) you can save all the voices you have stored on your rack also, so remember I have piano on track 1 trumpet on track 2 etc… Well I can save that as a program on my rack, I usually name it the same name as the beat on the MPC, so when I load things back up I just have to turn to the correct program on the rack, load up the correct sequence on the MPC and all the stuff that is MIDI data will be ready to go

(FYI when I save stuff on my computer I can transfer that program data from the rack to my computer for back up via USB I save the motif program in the same corresponding beat folder as my MPC program


Another thing

Formant and Big have taught me that u should always leave a MIDI port free so you can multi track, so its good to connect all your racks to MIDI port A and leave B free so u can track out to your computer(cubase protocols etc.)
If u want to hook up more then one rack to your MPC u just mute the MIDI channels on the rack that aren’t being used.

For example, im getting a fantom X rack soon so my set up will be like this
MIDI 1A-device01 to 8A device08 < motif
MIDI 9A-device09 to 16A devuce16 < fantom X

Now I mute the channel 8 threw 16 on my motif rack cause I only want fantom sounds on those channels

I mute channel 1-8 on my fantom rack casue I only want motif sounds on those channels

Hope this helps if u got other questions holla back

Class…..

 

[Loose Cannon]

wow. that really helped. props