settle this for me please

[CHARLIEPLATNUM]

last week me and one of my homies were discussing mics, pre's and signal chains. He's a little on the " I saw somebody do it this way at such & such studios" so it's got to be right type dudes. He thinks if you run a mic through a mixer, to a pre amp, then to the multitrack....you'll get a better sound than ( my way>> ) bypassing the mixer and going straight to the preamp and then to the multitrack.

 

[Cleverwon]

Id run it thru the preamp 1st, unless he means a mixer w/ phantom power.

 

[Doc Henny]

i agree; i'd run it thru the preamp 1st, but it seems redundant to use a mixer and a multitrack...also, the mixer prob has a preamp built in as well, although it may not be that great

 

[Formant024]

depends on the mixer, if its a behringer I'd skip that too

 

[konceptG]

generally speaking, most larger recording houses will go mic>preamp>mixer with compression/limiting patched as an insert on the mixer channel. Something like this - http://www.focusrite.com/productdetails.asp?id=46&iRange=4 - is usually seen in bigger studios, but for a project studio something like this - http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Signal/Processors?sku=180069 - is just fine.

 

[CHARLIEPLATNUM]

It's just my home pre-production set up mainly. The mixer is a Yamaha MG16/4. the only reason I got the mixer was to hook up all my MIDI gear and Stanton T50x. I send the outs from the mixer to the AW16 (only 6 1/4 inch inputs) for tracking purposes. I'm going to start putting together demos for people who buy beats from me and don't have the bread to go to the studio. I do have a Bheringer MIC2200 tube pre that I've hooked up to the AUX sends and returns just to get a warmer sound before going into the multitrack. I just didn't see the need in running the mic through the mixer, when the Ultragain tube preamp has 48v power.

thanks for the input fellas......

 

[5th Sequence]

The only thing I could see a mixer being used in your friends way is to use one of the mixers effects if it has any. Possibly compression, mic modeling or EQ. This wouldnt be a good idea though cuz everything would be recorded that way and undooable.

 

[CHARLIEPLATNUM]

generally speaking, most larger recording houses will go mic>preamp>mixer with compression/limiting patched as an insert on the mixer channel. Something like this - http://www.focusrite.com/productdetails.asp?id=46&iRange=4 - is usually seen in bigger studios, but for a project studio something like this - http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Signal/Processors?sku=180069 - is just fine.

Thanx for the info CUZ

Actually I have two Bheringer( just something to start out with ) tube pre's and a Samson SCOM already. It's just that one of my homies disagreed with the way I by passed the mixer and ran my mic through the pre and SCOM straight to the multitrack....

The only thing I could see a mixer being used in your friends way is to use one of the mixers effects if it has any. Possibly compression, mic modeling or EQ. This wouldnt be a good idea though cuz everything would be recorded that way and undooable.

Exactly, chalk one up for your boy.......The MG16/4 has eq, but no effects...I'll use the effects either from my rack and insert them into the multitrack, or use the effects that are already in the multitrack...... I guess you can say I'm only using the mixer as a bus to get all my MIDI gear out puts into the multitrack. I'll be moving up to a 32 channel mixer soon....cuz tracking is a BEAOCH right now. I have to either plug and unplug all the outs from each piece of gear, or track each joint one at a time.....


Good Lookin'out

i agree; i'd run it thru the preamp 1st, but it seems redundant to use a mixer and a multitrack...also, the mixer prob has a preamp built in as well, although it may not be that great

I got the mixer to hook up my midi gear and turntable......the multitrack doesn't have enough inputs for everything. It's an AW16g it only has 8 inputs, 6 1/4" 2 XLR.

 

[misscc803]

Why not use your Yamaha AW16 as your mixer? You can connect everything to it. Thats what i do with my Roland VS-2000.

 

[CHARLIEPLATNUM]

Why not use your Yamaha AW16 as your mixer? You can connect everything to it. Thats what I do with my Roland VS-2000.

I was doing that, but I ended up getting more gear....the AW16g ( the model before the AW16000 ) only has 8 inputs: 2 xlr, and 6 1/4...and I like to run stereo outs. DO you run stereo outs or LMONO??????