"rumored" jay-z's new album line up

[Svenghali]

i think whoever says that 9th beat is wack is gay cuz they prolly cant wait for that jeezy timbaland to drop

I won't say he's wack but he's not prolific. 9th's legacy to me, as it stands is for utilizing "Fruity Loops" program to make good Hip Hop tracks and thus opening the floodgate of "pc" producers. He's got good tracks and so do alot of other producers. Just Blaze has a sound, Kanye has a sound, Pharrell has a sound. Their sound is their signature. What is 9th's sound, signature? There are quite a few producers that came many years before him that can lay claim to samplin' Soul records. I think 9th is a champion for those that are fans of unadultered Hip Hop and a visionary in the use computer software, but on a "skill" level he's no Focus, Hi-Tech or the late J-Dilla for that matter. I'm probably one of the few on this site that feels this way (and it wouldn't be the first time), but I don't feel that he's an "elite" producer. He falls in with the Kev Browns of the world (although I think Kev Brown is more talented). Their good and I like their production, but it's not creatively inspiring.

And I must mention, I definently ain't gay and it would make no difference in my life if either Timbaland or Jeezy decided to retire tomorrow.

 

[Benny BuKu]

I don't think we can make any assumptions until the album comes out...people on here rating the album and shit...

 

[Opera Populare]

i cosign wat svenghali is sayin but 9th does have a signature it just gets boring after while. There are a couple of beats i say wow to but then after that I get used to the same patterns and overall sound of his music but I dont want to turn this into a 9th wonder post so back to the issue the listing might be true i got this from allhiphop.com

JAY-Z TRACKLISTING & TOUR UPDATE...

So, this is what I was told from a source about the Jigga tracklisting and this will prove to be the truth! "That list you have is somewhat all of it some of the titles are wrong and the features are all right except you're missing one big one we gonna keep under wraps. There are more songs." Ok, so now we are getting someplace. We'll see, won't we? [Still some guy says to me, 'I made it up." So, who knows?]

 

[Ash Holmz]

well im guilty ... when i read cd credits ... and i see the album has a timbaland beat ... i look forward to hearing that track ... cuz i know more than not its gonna be some hot diffrent soundin shit ... i dont mean to dwell on anything but threat sounds like it could have been made by anyone .. premo, havoc, any producer really ... its not a beat thats distinguishable in any way at all ... dj excellence (sorry to pick on u but thats ur style) could have made that beat posted it in the showcase and got some good reviews ... feel me? ...l... im not sayin 9th aint dope cuz he defintely is .. but just cuz u placed on jays last album dont give u an automatic spot on this one ..... specially when the track was mediocre at best at least for me..

 

[samuelock]

I just hate when Jay-z works with the Neptunes, there's no beat he did with them that I liked. And for that Threat beat, same thing for me, i thought it was just above average

i dunno. i really liked change clothes.

and yea nova, that coldplay track should be really interesting. i'm not really all hyped up with the rap/rock-alternative type collabos though.

 

[J Rilla]

well im guilty ... when i read cd credits ... and i see the album has a timbaland beat ... i look forward to hearing that track ... cuz i know more than not its gonna be some hot diffrent soundin shit ... u placed on jays last album dont give u an automatic spot on this one ..... specially when the track was mediocre at best at least for me..

Oh shyt ......Almost my words exactly......I thought i was the only one that still got hype for tim tracks

 

[Fury]

I won't say he's wack but he's not prolific. 9th's legacy to me, as it stands is for utilizing "Fruity Loops" program to make good Hip Hop tracks and thus opening the floodgate of "pc" producers. He's got good tracks and so do alot of other producers. Just Blaze has a sound, Kanye has a sound, Pharrell has a sound. Their sound is their signature. What is 9th's sound, signature? There are quite a few producers that came many years before him that can lay claim to samplin' Soul records. I think 9th is a champion for those that are fans of unadultered Hip Hop and a visionary in the use computer software, but on a "skill" level he's no Focus, Hi-Tech or the late J-Dilla for that matter. I'm probably one of the few on this site that feels this way (and it wouldn't be the first time), but I don't feel that he's an "elite" producer. He falls in with the Kev Browns of the world (although I think Kev Brown is more talented). Their good and I like their production, but it's not creatively inspiring.

And I must mention, I definently ain't gay and it would make no difference in my life if either Timbaland or Jeezy decided to retire tomorrow.

this aint goin nowhere cuz if u rele did listen to 9th wonder ull be able to tell his beat from anybody..he gotta a soulfoul sound that just cant be knocked..and does it rele matter that he uses fruity loops?? i knoe so many ppl who make fire wit it as well as any other program.. who cares how the beat is done cuz in the end nobody is lookin at how u sequenced it all they here is what comes out them speakers

 

[trez260]

i hope fade is keeping an eye on this thread. it's showing evidence of becoming an "9th wonder/ fruity loops" debate..fast.

 

[Fade]

Yes it is. Please get back on topic.

 

[MarkN]

am i the only one that wasnt feelin the threat track? .. nice beat .. nice ryhmes but the song didnt work for me... defintely a very forgettable track

no me either, the beat was ok but got boring pretty quick and i didn't think jay did anything special on it !

 

[afriquedeluxe]

working with some unheard of producers would be great. he is already guranteed success because its "JaYZ", why not go for some other sound with new peeps.

 

[StressWon]

working with some unheard of producers would be great. he is already guranteed success because its "JaYZ", why not go for some other sound with new peeps.

thats what I'm sayin,,,

 

[MarkN]

i think at the end of the day he works with the best producers around ,he's arguably the biggest name in the game at the moment so why shouldnt he if he put out an album with a bunch of no names and it got slated he'd look like and idiot and he'd lose money, as much money as he may have he still is not going to want to lost money on an album, and surely he will bring out the his most creative and best stuff with the most creative and best producers around !? no ?

 

[Svenghali]

well im guilty ... when i read cd credits ... and i see the album has a timbaland beat ... i look forward to hearing that track ... cuz i know more than not its gonna be some hot diffrent soundin shit ... i dont mean to dwell on anything but threat sounds like it could have been made by anyone .. premo, havoc, any producer really ... its not a beat thats distinguishable in any way at all ... dj excellence (sorry to pick on u but thats ur style) could have made that beat posted it in the showcase and got some good reviews ... feel me? ...l... im not sayin 9th aint dope cuz he defintely is .. but just cuz u placed on jays last album dont give u an automatic spot on this one ..... specially when the track was mediocre at best at least for me..

Yes, that track was mediocre at best. But I do like the new version of the Crooklyn Dodgers he produced.

this aint goin nowhere cuz if u rele did listen to 9th wonder ull be able to tell his beat from anybody..he gotta a soulfoul sound that just cant be knocked..and does it rele matter that he uses fruity loops?? i knoe so many ppl who make fire wit it as well as any other program.. who cares how the beat is done cuz in the end nobody is lookin at how u sequenced it all they here is what comes out them speakers

How you gonna tell me what I really listened to and what I know? My point wasn't about how he makes beats, I said he is known more for bringin' prominence to Fruity Loops than his tracks. What didn't you understand? There's a serious problem on this site with basic reading and comprehension. How can a dude that can't read and comprehend make beats? Having to always reiterate the point to these lames is getting old. Read, think, speak.

 

[static]

overall I say it should be a good album. it HAS to be good if jay said “hmm even though I said im done, shit I gotta make just one last album.”

 

[Opera Populare]

the single leaked today and i must say I'm addicted to it

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.652/title.jay-z-show-me-what-you-got

click here to hear the original samples and read a lil dialogue from jay and just about the track

http://xxlmag.com/online/?cat=23

 

[StressWon]

damn son,,that shit was horrible.

 

[djswivel]

New single is wack....Fake Encore....Jay looks like he could be wearin the 45 this time around...I hope not, but after listening to the first single, it;s not lookin too good...

 

[Sanova]

singles kinda hard to listen to... not really feelin it..

 

[trez260]

the chorus is wack. i've heard the main sample used before. it sounds like they tried to make it bigger than it really is by adding all the extra drum work, it's too much going on IMO. it does have and "encore"-ish feel to is. check K-def (one of the G.O.A.T.) site and check his version, track 13 on his audio player (but the 12 before are also hot so enjoy'em all), i'm lovin his alot more.