Redrum Programming

[KEV31]

I've been listening to some 9th Wonder tracks, and i've noticed how his beats have a loose,unquantized feel to them. The reason i use him as an example is because he does all of his beats in step sequencer. I want to program beats strictly with the redrum in case i have my laptop without my trigger finger or keyboard.

Basically, are there any settings that can put a swing on the drums

 

[Sanova]

theres the shuffle setting on the transport device. i like it at around 45 (or 25..one of those i forget).

then change the steps per measure on the redrum machine. like how its prolly set to 1/16, change those settings around

 

[Scholar]

you can also get drum loops (rex) with the Loose feel and extract its quantize and use groove quantize to use its loose feeling on ur stuff.

 

[Sanova]

I have ALOT of drum loops from AKAI, and SONY. if you want them. at leas 3 gigs. I dont use em, but they are very good.

 

[Holly Scott]

you can also get drum loops (rex) with the Loose feel and extract its quantize and use groove quantize to use its loose feeling on ur stuff.

how exactly? do ya just copy and paste into redrum then quantize groove or wha?

and will this give the loose feel to whatever patch you usin in redrum?

Cheers

 

[Sanova]

put it in the dr.rex. or u can control it in the nnxt..

 

[Scholar]

you put it in the Dr Rex joint,then you place it track, then you right click on a section of the loop,a box pops up and you "GET USER GROOVE" then quantize to that.

 

[krysolite]

u talkin about like off beat sorta? u kno how it says 1/16 in the down menu on the sequencer track? open the redrum sequencer track and u see that button on the right of 1/16. click it so its not pushed down, and then place notes on the sequencer track. that button basically makes it un-snap to the lines. u can put it whereever.

OR (cuz the last way is sorta like... really precise and u can make shitloads of mistakes)

1) change 1/16 either to 1/16t for the offbeat drums that timbo uses
2) OR 1/32 for like rolls or ish. quick notes. not really offbeat, but. ya

btw 1) is pretty sic man. all my beats use 1/16t for kicks and ish. soudns more organic. yakno. like the drums r alive. dayummm. timbo is good example.

 

[Sanova]

^ lol. yea that was my answer.

then change the steps per measure on the redrum machine. like how its prolly set to 1/16, change those settings around

 

[krysolite]

o -_- didnt see that

 

[Hita_K]

I was wondering that same about swing in reason thanx

 

[SilentNoiz]

MPC swing template for Reason...

Check this page out fam: http://www.peff.com/journal/2006/01/28/mpc-groove-template-tutorial/

Peff is the MAN when it comes to REASON programming and this maps out how to get MPC swing on ya joints run on REASON. Down further in the tutorial is a link to download the files from Peffs site.

Hope it helps...

SilentNoiz

 

[Sanova]

Lemme check this out, seems promising.

edit: Very nice, its very promising, dont forget to change the tempo if u download the file

 

[Shonsteez]

Kev - Not to knock what u said about the 9th Wonder, but when listening to his joints - ive gotta say that his stuff doesnt sound that "loose" or more humanized. His stuff sounds pretty quantized sometimes. I can feel a hint of FL swing on some of his shit, but still most of the time his stuff sounds pretty locked.(Not to say thats bad though - I actually like this feel on certain joints, it just depends) Plus, theres other factors that come into play as to how he pgrms his beats and how you do yours.......

He may still use the step sequencer like everyone starts with, or he might use a midi controller now to lay down most parts. If he does use a midi controller other things come into play like how he uses it to interact with the prgm tho. If he leaves the quantize while recording setting on while he bangs out the drum parts then of course its gonna sound the same as the step sequencer minus the new dynamics that have been added from actually playin the parts with human touch.....but if he leaves that feature off and just plays the shit out, well then its all natural human error and nothing else.

So if that is how hes prgming then all u gotta do is cop a midi controller and do tha same thing. But musics music man, its all up to u how u want yer shit to sound, ya know?

Heres a suggestion and something i often do:

**While recording with a midi controller set the quantize while recording feature to 1/16 but then let it only quantize at about 50% or less to leave some human error in there.

Or ---- If you are gonna still use the stepper due to lack of controller or that u simply prefer this method - Try fucking with the swing feature while u prgm the hits and until it feels a little more to your liking, ....only thing is this still isnt gonna sound the same as human error.

Ooooor --- Just prgm with a midi controller and leave the quantize off for good. Just be carefull though becuase sometimes if yer shit aint on point you can really fuck up the groove of the song. Basically, this all just comes with practice like anything else.

Good luck.

STEEZ