Reason DAW feature
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thedreampolice
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Midi out so you can control and external hardware device.
Formant024
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ill o.g.
just midi input, if you want midi out options you need to have rewire set up. Also still no vst support which i think they missed out, again. A mixer inspired by the ssl 9000 console of which i doubt it will sound anything alike but will sell of course. I have no complaints on line6 products, good for the money but rather have vst support and if you like line6 software (im luvin the pod) then buy it as they're cheap to be had. In all its still not nearly close to call it an actual daw, the limitations imply a lack of functionality as found with complete daws. I mean, it will be sufficient for hiphop production but i dont see anyone recording a band with this. But its a bang for a buck, you cant really complain.
Not hating, i had been working with reason rewired up to 2.5 but then other platforms really catched up more and running it for just the dr.rex and redrum wasnt worth it.
Not hating, i had been working with reason rewired up to 2.5 but then other platforms really catched up more and running it for just the dr.rex and redrum wasnt worth it.
Kontents
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ill o.g.
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Dude you need to upgrade to 4. 2.5 is like black and white tv compared to color tv.
Formant024
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Well, ok, maybe not an issue to the hiphop community but in the other electronic genres people are still using a lot of synths and other midi gear. Same people worked with reason and ditched it again due to the lack of it all. Most of these cats use one daw and are not willing to use rewire for a lot a reasons.
Formant024
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dude, haha, i have been checking it but i have a better alternative with a lot more flexibility. Reason 4 just added more features i would not use or care about. IMO, i like simplicity of my setup, i dont want to be running 3 platforms to get my setup running. Powerup bootcamp, click the FL icon and bang, all is done and running...power up osx, click the logic icon and select home, mpc or studio template and im done.
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
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If you like the effects and sound modules in Reason and don't really use vst or vsti's this shit is perfect. I know it took me many moons to jump on the vst band wagon. Vst's and vsti's can become a headache! I believe Reason users will love this new joint. Sounds like it is easy on your processor....something that some vst aren't. For $149 upgrade it's more than worth it.
I'm definitely rocking this and Ableton when it drops in September. An audio record function is all Reason was missing imo...now it has it without using rewire....PRICELESS!
I'm definitely rocking this and Ableton when it drops in September. An audio record function is all Reason was missing imo...now it has it without using rewire....PRICELESS!
Step Soprano
ILLIEN
ill o.g.
dreampolice, why u sayin midi out is useless these days?
thedreampolice
A backwards poet writes inverse.
There are very few things I cant recreate in software. The only think I can think of would be a straight up analog synth and even then I will probably sample it and make a refill anyway.
Step Soprano
ILLIEN
ill o.g.
i feel u, just so much more work than just going in and playing it from the keyboard.
thedreampolice
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ha ha, no doubt. Just easier in the long run.
One of the hardest things I find to recreate with synths is guitar, its hard to capture the nuances of the instrument. Its the same with instruments like cello, its hard to create the wobble that the cello player creates through wobbling their hand while playing.
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
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^^^ you can apply for a beta on their website, perhaps worth to give it a go
thedreampolice
A backwards poet writes inverse.
If I could open my Reason session and add the guitar and vocal parts that would be all I need.
"One of the hardest things I find to recreate with synths is guitar, its hard to capture the nuances of the instrument."
I agree, good thing I am a guitar player ha ha, that does not have much to do with midi out.
"One of the hardest things I find to recreate with synths is guitar, its hard to capture the nuances of the instrument."
I agree, good thing I am a guitar player ha ha, that does not have much to do with midi out.
Thats what I thought yesterday. Being able to use waves plugins and vst synths in reason without having to rewire through yet another program would be a very nice addon. But then it becomes more like all the other programs that already have that feature. I read that they were trying to remain seperate from the crowd, that could just be code for the lack of such features.
It also said in the text that record isnt a daw, and they were concentrating more on one quality feature ie recording audio, rather than making a DAW do it all type program.
thedreampolice
A backwards poet writes inverse.
I dont want VST/Audio Unit support. Keep it stable and fast. If you can't get done with the included Reason effects you need to learn more about engineering.
you can do a lot with the included efx, but id like multi band compression and some spectral analysis.
The eq is limited on bands and you have to keep chaining up eq's for extra bands.
I agree that vst's can severely hog system resources, especially vst instruments.
Formant024
Digital Smokerings
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I have zero hogs running plugins... In logic or FL (MBP 2.2/4Gb). I mean, come on, it (reason) appeals to anyone having a xeleron processor and doesnt feel like spending money which is fine but as long as i have been playing this game you hardly get THAT value for quality (luckily that market is huge).
Im not going to say beatcreators, we're all producers but producing is either fun or when seriously taken, very expensive. I dont make a difference wether it concerns hiphop or electronica but all of the electronica producers (yes, that implies to hiphop producers too) should know a good deal on engineering as THAT is what makes a really good producer...period. If its for the fun (which is of course for all of us) then you can understand the nature for some of us that do not feel like putting in that effort...not even going to say its necessary because technically a lot of hiphop productions out there are overrated. But in this definition of a producer you'll also define the tools of the trade, so if you're a songwriter or dont feel like that engineering is a part of what it takes than Record will suite you, just pay an engineer to do it. If you want to know...Cubase, PT or Logic is the way to go as they will not provide you with any limitations except you lack of knowledge.
I do applaud the new mixer, not in regards to the sound or that it's a mimic of an ssl console but that fact that you have more bands to tweak and patching options you'd find on any mixer...just common functionality, something that stopped me from using reason. Aside from the typical reason sound (algorhythm), i found that the mixer interface was very unfriendly. The whole fx setup nailed it, Record is indeed an addition for singer/songwriters or just anyone playing guitar considering that the only 3rd party fx supported is Line6.
It means either that those appealed to Record are either noob (no offense) or indeed Reason users. What i dont understand is why you would want Record if you're using rewire already aside from that it's an ITB solution, most cats will still end up using rewire to a DAW for post/pre production. There's no point on having both as Record includes pretty much everything that Reason has, you can just open you're Reason projects in Record (and still use rewire).
Perhaps there is a logical explanation from a revenue point of view as they want to appeal into a different end user, which might not have been as interesting to that target group if it was called Reason 5. From all the criteria i've read so far on Record, they have still let down loads of reason users as they had been hoping for a reason 5 with audio and vst support. These people would certainly not buy Record.
Im not going to say beatcreators, we're all producers but producing is either fun or when seriously taken, very expensive. I dont make a difference wether it concerns hiphop or electronica but all of the electronica producers (yes, that implies to hiphop producers too) should know a good deal on engineering as THAT is what makes a really good producer...period. If its for the fun (which is of course for all of us) then you can understand the nature for some of us that do not feel like putting in that effort...not even going to say its necessary because technically a lot of hiphop productions out there are overrated. But in this definition of a producer you'll also define the tools of the trade, so if you're a songwriter or dont feel like that engineering is a part of what it takes than Record will suite you, just pay an engineer to do it. If you want to know...Cubase, PT or Logic is the way to go as they will not provide you with any limitations except you lack of knowledge.
I do applaud the new mixer, not in regards to the sound or that it's a mimic of an ssl console but that fact that you have more bands to tweak and patching options you'd find on any mixer...just common functionality, something that stopped me from using reason. Aside from the typical reason sound (algorhythm), i found that the mixer interface was very unfriendly. The whole fx setup nailed it, Record is indeed an addition for singer/songwriters or just anyone playing guitar considering that the only 3rd party fx supported is Line6.
It means either that those appealed to Record are either noob (no offense) or indeed Reason users. What i dont understand is why you would want Record if you're using rewire already aside from that it's an ITB solution, most cats will still end up using rewire to a DAW for post/pre production. There's no point on having both as Record includes pretty much everything that Reason has, you can just open you're Reason projects in Record (and still use rewire).
Perhaps there is a logical explanation from a revenue point of view as they want to appeal into a different end user, which might not have been as interesting to that target group if it was called Reason 5. From all the criteria i've read so far on Record, they have still let down loads of reason users as they had been hoping for a reason 5 with audio and vst support. These people would certainly not buy Record.