Is there a cure?

[dacalion]

Lately Ive been having issues with an unwanted effect. Its hard to explain but it sounds like a flanging type effect...kinda like what happens when a DJ plays 2 of the same records at the same place on the record. It creates this wierd sound effect. Its happening to me when I put a sample with drums on top of my drum line (on certain songs).

Ive tried offsetting them a little but thats causing a delay effect that I dont want and Ive tried lowering the volume on both the sample and the drum line but thats not working either, Im losing the "fullness" of them both being where they need to be.

Anybody know any solutions to this? Any gear that will minimize or stop this from happening?
Holla back at me. Any advice would be helpful.

dac

 

[5th Sequence]

Hmm, sounds like it could be a few things.

Try looking at the frequency spectrum of both samples (the sample that has drums in it as well as the programmed drums themselves) to see if they are competing for the same frequency range. If both samples have dominant frequencies in the same range, EQ one of them so they aren't fighting each other.

If that doesn't fully work you could try setting up a sidechain to create a ducking effect with the sample when your programmed drums play. if this effect is apparent when only the kick drum hits... or only when the snare hits, etc than a few db's of ducking could help tuck the sample underneath your programmed drums, only when the the drums activate the sidechain.

Lastly, if you have the options to invert the phase on any of your programmed drum samples, see if inverting the kick, snare, or hihats individually does anything to nullify your strange effect.

 

[mono]

upload a snippet

 

[dacalion]

Hmm, sounds like it could be a few things.

Try looking at the frequency spectrum of both samples (the sample that has drums in it as well as the programmed drums themselves) to see if they are competing for the same frequency range. If both samples have dominant frequencies in the same range, EQ one of them so they aren't fighting each other.

Lastly, if you have the options to invert the phase on any of your programmed drum samples, see if inverting the kick, snare, or hihats individually does anything to nullify your strange effect.

I did both of these and its barely recognizable now, Im still tinkering with it but its no longer a problem. Ive done the inverted thing before to remove either vocals or music and I NEVER would have thought of using it on this. So good look 5th!

I can't post the link or sniplet because this one is going in the next Beat This...lol.

Thanks again,

dac

 

[Sucio]

Yeah...that also happens when you layer two of the same bass kick...you get that phasing/flanging effect and it can drive you nuts.....Just like 5th said..if they are both of the same frequency...you get that after effect...so have the frequencies be different....

 

[Shonsteez]

Sounds like a phasing issue Dac.
Your prob gonna have to remedy that with careful EQ.

 

[dacalion]

Yeah Sucio and Shonsteez, Ive never had that happen to me while putting a song together. And yes that ish was driving me crazy...the funny thing about this is when I use to DJ, I wanted this affect from time to time, but now I stay far away from it. I really was about to scrap the entire project.

Thanks for your help for sure.

peace,

dac

 

[Shonsteez]

So you got it sorted out?

 

[dacalion]

yes suuurrrr! im gonna unleash her the next Beat This. Thanks for your help fo sho.

dac