I need some advice...

afriquedeluxe

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 221
aight, i got this email but i dont know if its spam mail sent to everyone but this is what it said.......

"I am part of the A&R Team for GPLK INC. My job is to find unsigned artists
who have what it takes to be placed on a GPLK INC Compilation Album. I have
just listened to your Music and I am Really Liking what I hear.

GPLK INC operate an open entry policy, this means anybody can send in an
application to be reviewed by our A&R Team, however because I have already
heard the quality of your music and know it is exactly what We are looking
for.

I would like you to follow these instructions:

When you send your application forms and Demo I would like you to write
this code in bold on the reverse of your envelope
***** ***** *****
This will enable me to identify your demo and fast track you through our
review process.
Use the link below to visit the GPLK INC website and download your
application forms.

www.gplkinc.moonfruit.com/compilationcd

If you want to know more details then email me back.


Derek sprinter
A&R team (compilation CDs)
GPLK INC "

What shud i do?

:confused:
 

luxx

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
There whole web site looks mad corney man. I don't think u would even want ur stuff being associated
with them anyway.
 

Streetwize

Beat Architects !
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 49
if u do decide, go copyright your beats

at least u know u cant be jacked and if u r, u are protected and you can sue their asses if they decide to fuck about with their beats
 

luxx

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
they dont even have info about their company or label or whatever they are. they got a bunch of lame looking cd covers. 'frique Im not trying 2 rain on your parade, your a beast. Its just in my opinion they website looks kinda shady. If u send them a demo poor man copywrite all your beats w/ original files, anything u can think of, and then see what comes of it. u never know even if it doesn't turn into anything with them, u might meet someone elsse through them.
 

Fade

The Beat Strangler
Administrator
illest o.g.
Afrique, my advice is don't bother. The first thing I noticed about their email was that not once did it mention your name! This means that it must be spam. DELETE.
 

boneyboys

50 Million Year Trip
ill o.g.
A brief googling comes back with:
"Oh yeah - they are definitely shady. I sent off an enmail yesterday with several questions for them to answer. The reply was lengthy but they did not directly address one question I asked. And all of the "employees" use the same email address. No thanks. "

The way I see it its on a free host, the site is obviously made with a site builder thing and it just doesn't look very professional, the quality you got going I say give it a miss man, sorry. Put together your own little compilation and shop it round to a few labels, just little ones round London (or even Birmingham, theres gotta be a few labels based round there). Just my thoughts though, if anyone knows anything different I'll bow to superior knowledge
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 68
Dude, you know I get these like 3 times a day! The only time I got at true one was from Fritz Tha cat from Universal Canada. But I dont live there so I couldn't werk with him!!! :headbang: Seriously, if someone is THAT interested,,,they'll leave a call back number so you can set up an appointment. ya got mad skills man,,,,make a demo, copyright that the right way(no pun intended) and start promotin!
 

RigorMortis

Army Of Darkness
ill o.g.
I dont want to come off at you afrique but if you read that mail you'll directly see that shit is spam the way it is setup.. so dont bother with them fools.. and if you decide to do so send only things that are copyrighted..

and their site is mad corny with those site building adds.
 

afriquedeluxe

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 221
thnx guys, i figuz it was spam cuz like fade said neva did it mention my name in the whole mail. ama give it a miss, aint got time to make material for dem dudes, and the site does look cheap , lol.
 
C

Copenhagen

Guest
This is most likely a scam company, or a so called songshark.

Some will ask you for a sumission fee to be on the CD, "to show your dedication". They might actually make a CD, but it will be low budget with no/little promotion, that won't be worth your money, but most likely, they won't make a CD at all.

Some, perhaps after also having gotten a submission fee from you etc, will sell your beat to others without notifying you. This is most likely the case here, as I found this in another forum:

YO WOTS UP MY GANGSTAz !!
I'M THA OWNER OF GPLK INC, OUR COMPANY MAKES THA TIGHTEST BEATS 4 YOU RAPPERS 2 LAY YOUR VOCALS ON,
this is for tha rappers that do there thang but needa real heavy beat 2 make success !!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------
GPLK INC HAVE SOLD RAP/HIPHOP/RNB BEATS ALL OVER THA WORLD AND HAS NOW MADE THA RAP UNDERGROUND SCENE HUGE !!!
THA NEWEST BEAT OUT IS ON SOUND CLICK !!!
CHECK IT OUT NOW!!!
ONLY $150
MORE NEW BEATS COMIN SOON !!!
get in contact !!!
gplk inc

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Here's an article for you to read:

"BANDS WANTED FOR UPCOMING COMPILATION TO BE SHOPPED TO MAJOR LABELS!"
It's a headline you see all the time when flipping through your favorite music magazine, browsing the web, or reading your email. Are compilations a good deal or just a ripoff? Do the major labels really care?

The idea of a compilation CD is a great one. Getting 15-20 bands to split the cost of mastering, artwork, manufacturing, and promotion makes a lot more sense than spending all that cash yourself, right? The answer is yes...and no.

First of all, no label (major or indie) if going to give you a deal because of a track you've had on a compilation disc. In fact, most major labels don't care enough to listen to them in the first place. Why should they?

Why should a busy music industry executive listen to 15-20 songs by bands that are included in the project only because they had enough money in their bank account to pay for it? The only way somebody at a major label is going to care is if the person promoting the disc actually knows them or has a reputation for putting out quality discs.

With that said, compilations are still a great way (and an inexpensive one) to get your music out into the hands of people who are interested. Independent bands most often have to make their fans one at a time and what better way to get somebody into what you're doing than giving them a copy of it?

Thinking about getting on a compilation disc? Here are a few rules you should follow and a few questions you shouldn't be afraid to ask. A lot of people have been burned on compilation deals, so don't become one of them!

It's just a compilation!
That's right. It's just a compilation, so deal with it. You're not signing for a $20,000,000 advance or anything. A compilation is just a promotional tool...just like a magazine ad or a flyer.

Will my direct contact information be included in the liner notes?
Why is this important? You want people to be able to get in touch you with directly...not through the company you're working with! Compilation companies are only the promoters here, so don't let them try to weasel in on the deal if something does come up.

Will the compilation be for sale or for promotional use only?
An excellent question. Why should you pay money to get on a disc that a company is going to turn around and sell? You're paying for the manufacture (and possibly more depending on the deal), so don't ever work with somebody who is going to turn around and make a profit off selling of your music.

Can a see a previous disc?
A company who wants you to spend money with them should at least be willing to send you a sample of what you're going to end up on. This is EXTREMELY important and will tell you a lot about what you're getting yourself involved with.

What kind of standards do you have to be included on the disc?
Do you really want to be lumped in with a bunch of bands who are only included because they come up with the submission fee? Ask about this.

I was selected out of 2000 entries?
Yes, you and the other 1999 people. Don't let them stroke your ego with stories that you beat out 2000 other people and it's a very big honor. Compilation discs happen all the time and there is no such thing as a "window of opportunity" with them.

Is money really a sign of my dedication to "making it?"
Don't be bullied into a deal by somebody who tells you that you have to spend your money to show how serious you are. Sure, you have to show some effort and effort sometimes involves money, but money doesn't always equal dedication.

The Bottom Line
The bottom line is that you need to pass on the deal if you're feeling funny about it, the company isn't giving you direct answers to your questions, or you're getting a high pressure sale. It's just a compilation and you're not missing out on a career opportunity.
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You'll make it without having to try out these kind of things Afrique...
 

RigorMortis

Army Of Darkness
ill o.g.
yo afrique sent them an offer to design a better website for them and ask the fee upfront LOL
 

tricky spinz

Dead Man Walkin
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 12
damn man. that site was crap.


1. they didnt even have like, a cool flash intro or even an opening page.

2. No flash on the site really at all, except for a few buttons. ooo, look at that! the GO button lights up when you move your mouse over it! LAME.

3. Money is always the motivator. If they were serious about wanting to become a big label they would put some time and effort into a site that would make them look appealing and help attract customers. not this cheesy piece of shit which makes you think, oh look, a 12 year old designed a website!
 

Muzik

SouthBound
ill o.g.
Yo Afr... man be carefull about folks that send you this kinda stuff man...
looks like there "Phishin" to me ... Protect your Muzik...
damn my 3year old daughter could make a site better than that yo shell even put a lil flash on it too... LOL ...
 
M

Muziq

Guest
Hi folks !

I was just passing by this thread but the first post and the replies caught my eyes. Though I could still leave it right here and move ahead but it would be a shame if I don't add something here cuz I have a personal experience with GPLK.Inc.

At first, let me tell you guyz that I always love to meet and interect with other musicians whether they are into Hip Hop , Rock or Classical. I believe that music is a great expression of one's feeling, thoughts and imaginations and a great fun, whther it is played in any style.. Certainly one of the best forms of art one has ever found and that's the reason I listen to everyone and every type of music.

It's been a decade since I'm playing music for others and it's just been two years I've started appearing on different forums and websites to promote my own stuff.

Now reading the posts above, I realized that many of you have declared this e-mail a spam and perhaps Arfique has decided, not to send his demoes to the company... :)

Well folks ! The company is not a fake or scam. They have just released their Hip Hop and Rock Festival Compilation Albums which some of you might have found at their site and my own track is added in the Rock Festival Compilation 2004 album.

It's track no. 15 known as "United we Stand" and the band name is "Musicarian".

I'd earlier recevied a similer e-mail from Mr. Derek Sprinter who's a member of the A&R Team of this company GPLK.Inc. Ofcourse ! It was a good news for me too but on the other hand, I was thinking the same as you guyz mentioned your doubts above.

But then I thought that I should go ahead and ask them each and everything openly and in detail. I sent them a reply and received all the detailed answers from Mr. Derek Sprinter. Still I had few about the copyrights, about that Non-exclusive license and all which anyone could think after receiving this kinda offer... It took me few days and then I decided to take a chance.

Finaly my track is released with the GPLK Rock Festival Compilation 2004 and I also have gone through the same process you guyz have discussed above.

Now, being on this stage, I learnt a lot of things which you've mentioned above and I think I should write this so this might clear your doubts as well.

Why being on a Compilation CD after paying them an artist fee ?

You see ? There are thousance of unsigned artists in every genre who are using free homepage services at soundclick, iuma and hundreds of websites. Now whether we'll have to wait for a miracle or we'll have to try ourselves to promote our music or to bring our names into the limelight.
For this, we need to be prominent among all others who are the free members and have the same promotional page like we have on any music website. Being on a compilation CD and promoting it would be easier. Secondly these CDs are the proper releases with a brand name.
These are also sent to the promotional Radio stations and record labels for free. When the receive the free CDs, their A & R Teams ofcourse listen to these CDs and thus our music is atleast heard by professional of the industry. This is a great advantage I think..

Someone made a very good point that Record Executives don't have time to listen to these CDs.. Yes! I used to think like this.. But now I've learnt that the executives don't listen to these promotional CDs but each and every record label and music promotional companies have a hired A&R Team whom they pay to listen to the musicians and select the best of them. The criteria is of selection is different but most of them see, whether the track has the marketting capability and strength that more people would buy it or not.. Ofcourse the record labels release it after spending a lot of money and thus their first priority is a good sale to recover the costs and earn profits.. Record Company does business and they earn moeny by selling music. They are not there for the hobby or just to enjoy listening to the music..

So, the A&R Teams consist of the experienced musicians as well as people who understand the market requirments and all these members are paid to listen to the music of unsigned artists and then select the bst of them. These compilations are very usefull here..

Another point was there, in fact most of you posted about the copyrights.

Let me tell you folks.. I received an offer from an American Independent record company right after signing the GPLK's contract and I was afraid to ask this question to the record label that I've already given a non-exclusive license to a company known as GPLK.Inc but then I again took a chance and asked I told them about this and they simply said, that it's no problem for them.
So then I leanrt more about this non-exclusive license thing.. It's just like you're authorizing GPLK.Inc to release your track particularly with this release. Any releasing company would always ask for such licensing so that they wouldn't be blamed for any unauthorized release.
I singed a similer contract with my record company too. Still my album will take few months to be released but after singing two different contract I can assure you that this is just a non-exclusive liscense by which you allow the company to release your track in this particular CD.

Besides all this, the company is promoting you, so why they would cheat you or they would put themselves into a trouble of facing court or any other thing when they are simply doing a straight business of promoting unsigned artists and earning money by selling your tracks at their website.. ?

This doesn't make any sense.

They are selling your music and earning money..So simple.. For you, it's a tool to promote yourself and coming into the limelight at this early stage where none knows you except few friends or fans.

There's another point that the company doesn't let the Record Companies or fans to directly contact you.
Have you guyz seen the audio clips page of GPLK's website where they have added the clips of the tracks appread in these CDs..?
By the way.. the artist names infront of the track clips are the links which would directly take you to the artist's website or homepages...

Then comes the point about rip off beats..

My friends ! if the company could spend a lot of money on hiring a full A&R Team and spending money on remastering, releasing then how much it takes to hire any of the talented musicians for making beats for the company.. They could certainly hire few cheap musicians and ask them to compose or create beats which the company would sell on CDs..

Now I have to go, since I'm feeling sleepy now.. but one thing I'd like to mention here that the company is a reputable unsigned artists promotional company and the staff is truely caring since they have always been answering all my questions in detail and the really have been giving me favours which I was never expecting from a promotional company.

Trust me on this. Trust yourself and have a trust in your work.. You'll be very successful in future.

I wish you all a very good luck in your future and I'll surely gonna check some of your musical stuff too.. ;)

Do check out my stuff at www.soundclick.com/musicarian

Also see the news section where I've just added the news of the GPLK Rock Festival Compilation 2004. It's true and if you need to be successful in your music career then you'll have to spend something on it. It's doesn't happen everyday that a record label walks in and asks you to please give them your album for releasing. You'll have to come into the limelight yourself, otherwise there are more the 400000 musicians waiting for the Record Labels to hear them and release them.
The first record deal of your life is always bitter while one gets better and better as he/she in known to the market and people..

If this makes sense, send your demoes to such companies who are offering you atleast something which everyone's not getting. Even the opportunities don't knock at your door everytime. :)

Apologies if I said something wrong but I seriously tried to write you all I know about this cuz I've gone through this situation few months ago and it would not be my sincerity with music if I don't help other musicians like me to know the facts of this industry.

Take care and my best regards to all of ya !

Keep on doing good music and never let the spirit down ! ;)

http://www.soundclick.com/musicarian
 
ill o.g.
I heard one of the kids that they got signed on here (fokissed). His shit sounds real professional. But he's wack. His voice sounds like 50 Cent, and theres nothin wrong with that, but he's an Eminem wannabe. Really.

http://www.fokissed.com/main.html



Afrique,

Did you send an e-mail back to them?

I would say, either dont reply to them. Or reply to them sayin that your not really interested in workin with them. They might tell somebody else about you.
 

afriquedeluxe

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 221
i didnt reply back to them. ive got a project still underwraps and will be releasing a cd in the future, ive got an independent behind me, and they are not charging me for the service like these dudes.
 

tricky spinz

Dead Man Walkin
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 12
hahaha, hell yea he does. fokissed sucks big nuts. i mean listen to him! these lyrics are CRAP.


"now this one hurts the most cuz i used to like him, but now its gettin so old i'm startin to not like him?"


hahaha, man, thats some real witty lyrics right there. "i used to like him, but now i'm startin to NOT like him," haha damn. ridiculous.
 
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