How many times has this happened to you?

[DaWorldFamous]

Sampler's...can u feel my pain? I have been making tracks for a long time and I hate it when u find that fire ass sample that u never heard before,,,immediately crack it up then track it up...you let people hear it and they love it so u either record it with your artist or u sit on it hoping to sell it later...then a couple of months pass and u hear it on the radio with someone else rappin or singing on it....How soul crushing is that? I learned alot of lessons from this however...but it still hurts the same...It's happened to me alot but most notabley 3 occasions come to mind...
1st one....Drake's Best I ever had...I used that loop about 10 years ago...I loved that song he looped as a kid and I had the 45, thought it was rare, but it wasn't really....The name of the joint is "Falling In Love Again" by Hamilton, Joe Frank, and Reynolds

2nd one...Alicia Keys Teenage Love Affair.....I had just used that joint about 6 months before her album dropped. I was hurt by this one. "Girl, I Love You" by The Temprees

3rd One...Eminem...Guilty Conscience... I found this soundtrack called "Gettin Straight" while beatshoppin with Mr. Lawnge formerly of BlackSheep...We immediately took it home and looped it up and the way we did it was the same way Dr, Dre used it. The loop was two pieces of the same measure and goddamn..he did it just like we did...."Pigs Go Home" by Ronald Stein....I think it's on the Dusty Fingers Joint

I just felt like sharing...

 

[UNORTHODOX]

Yea happened to me 3 times
1. Common Misuderstood-I KILLED that joint. undeniabley but it was so similar to the way kanye flipped It I couldnt use it.

2. UGK I choose you- not rare at all but my flip was alot more engaging, but still had to put it in the vault.

3.Eve- Some random song when I fist started makin beats I made this beat completely composed. I played it for a friend and he played me eves song, it was Exactly alike.

So yea I feel your pain lol. but not lately

 

[DaWorldFamous]

Word..it hadn't happened to me lately until the drake joint came out..I went deeper in the record store ya digg, but I had made that joint probly 3or 4 yrs ago..thats crazy

 

[UNORTHODOX]

yea I made all mine atleast a year before the song came out.

 

[LDB]

We're over 20 years into hip hop. U really shouldn't be surprised when you hear the same record that you just sampled by somebody with the ability to actually put it out. There are only so many records in the world to be sampled and there are a Gazillion sample based producers out there. What you have to do is "Be like Slik da Relic", one of our members. He dresses them joints up to the point where he has to tell you what he used. Choppin 'em up, rearranging the chops to form a new melody and throwing some knocking drums under it won't get it today unless u can put it out in a hurry. Some composition over the top wouldn't hurt either!

U guys already have the sample game in the bag. U just need to put more thought into it and don't do the obvious so much. I prefer sampled tracks that make you have to dig to find what record the producer used. Most times you can't and you don't know what record they used until they tell you or you read it in the credits. Most samplers today lead in the with sample raw so all it takes is a little homework to narrow down the record and if the listener is already in the game as a producer with the ability to drop the joint to the masses before the less fortunate you'll keep getting beat out that gate.

 

[slik da relic]

the main reasons i began choppin my shit is bcuz of this... u guys songs are weak...lol

Naughty By Nature: OPP
50 Cent: How to Rob (not really a sample i dont think)

a few others that i cant recall right now, but OPP was the biggest... one thing i DO know... OPP kinda blew ours out the water... ours was called "easy as"... the exact piece of the sample was used... i think we still have it on floppy as i write this (sampler was a Roland DJ70, the poors man's ASR10...lol), but OPP is now a classic... but it really crushed us for a minute... i couldnt hate on OPP neither... shit was hot!

da relic

 

[Shonsteez]

Just chop that puppy up more and freak it differently!

 

[Da IllFellaz]

i came across used samples ALLLLL the time.....

however, the same sample is used ALLLLLL the time...

www.the-breaks.com

that will tell you a lot.....

 

[DaWorldFamous]

We're over 20 years into hip hop. U really shouldn't be surprised when you hear the same record that you just sampled by somebody with the ability to actually put it out. There are only so many records in the world to be sampled and there are a Gazillion sample based producers out there. What you have to do is "Be like Slik da Relic", one of our members. He dresses them joints up to the point where he has to tell you what he used. Choppin 'em up, rearranging the chops to form a new melody and throwing some knocking drums under it won't get it today unless u can put it out in a hurry. Some composition over the top wouldn't hurt either!

U guys already have the sample game in the bag. U just need to put more thought into it and don't do the obvious so much. I prefer sampled tracks that make you have to dig to find what record the producer used. Most times you can't and you don't know what record they used until they tell you or you read it in the credits. Most samplers today lead in the with sample raw so all it takes is a little homework to narrow down the record and if the listener is already in the game as a producer with the ability to drop the joint to the masses before the less fortunate you'll keep getting beat out that gate.

Oh sun, I know that. I've been doing that for years. I was introduced to that from Mr.Lawnge. He was one of the first to do it. He had a 4 chanel numark mixer that he would break up diff parts of the loop and play em back in a different sequence. Hell. it was on after that. I have got crates of shit niggas have used, and creates of shit they may never find. I like findin shit the niggas already used tho...so I can show others the coolness of sampling. Point taken

 

[Mister A.G]

yea I made all mine atleast a year before the song came out.

yeah i had this a couple of time,, than i stopped sampling because there's always somebody that uses the same sample as you..

 

[UNORTHODOX]

yeah i had this a couple of time,, than i stopped sampling because there's always somebody that uses the same sample as you..

true but I kinda see it as competion. If I do it better than you then while they are listenning to yours they're thinking about/comparing it to mines. then it kinda becomes free promo lol

 

[Greg Savage]

Just chop that puppy up more and freak it differently!

Pretty much


I've always been into creating my own samples

I'd either replay things process them through my preamp or I'd sample Lines from records (horns, keys, bass etc) then treat each sample as an instrument and make a completely different melody from that and sample it

No way to tell where the sources came from and I still retain that old feeling of the record(s).


Result = "Where did you find that? what record is that from? It sounds like this but kind has a vibe from so and so... where are you diggin?

No sample clearance issues thank you for the royalty checks Mtv

 

[Beatz 101]

An emcee & I had an amazing title track. Built a whole album around it.

A year and a half later we were ready to drop the album. Just so happens Jay-Zs "American Gangster" title track uses the same sample as our title track. American Gangster just so happens to drop a week before our record..... we're fuck'd

It wasnt the first time i heard an old sample i used found by someone else. But it seemed like God took extra care with shittin' on me that time. (I flipped the sample harder)



101

 

[slik da relic]

What you have to do is "Be like Slik da Relic", one of our members.

yo... i just noticed this statement... shows u how much i read most the posts...lol... thx for the props fam... now all i need is a Gatorade commercial, with an IllMuzik jersey on. :wink:

da relic