How does an MPC work?
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vitaminman
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Hey,
That's not such a big deal, anyone can make Akai format samples and post them on the net. It becomes a big deal if someone bought a commercial sample cd and posted the files on the net, that's piracy.
As for synths and samplers, there is a fine line to be drawn here between the two. Something like a Triton has preloaded samples permanently stored in ROM chips, technically this is no different than a 'real' sampler which uses RAM to temporarily store the sounds that the user loads.
One could debate that a device like a Triton or a sampler is a synth because it is capable of recreating acoustic and electric sounds, plus sounds not found in nature like old analogue synths.
These devices contain most, if not all, the components found in analogue synths like oscillators, filters, envelopes, LFO's, amps, and the ability to connect different modules together...the maindifference between the two is that older synths use analogue circuitry to do the job, newer synths use digital chips to do the job.
So, in my humble opinion, the big difference between a synth and a sampler is this : a synth has all the sounds already in it, a sampler doesn't. There are of course devices which cross this line, such as the Motif and Triton which have prestored sounds AND the ability to import new ones, but that's just semantics.
Take care,
Nick
That's not such a big deal, anyone can make Akai format samples and post them on the net. It becomes a big deal if someone bought a commercial sample cd and posted the files on the net, that's piracy.
As for synths and samplers, there is a fine line to be drawn here between the two. Something like a Triton has preloaded samples permanently stored in ROM chips, technically this is no different than a 'real' sampler which uses RAM to temporarily store the sounds that the user loads.
One could debate that a device like a Triton or a sampler is a synth because it is capable of recreating acoustic and electric sounds, plus sounds not found in nature like old analogue synths.
These devices contain most, if not all, the components found in analogue synths like oscillators, filters, envelopes, LFO's, amps, and the ability to connect different modules together...the maindifference between the two is that older synths use analogue circuitry to do the job, newer synths use digital chips to do the job.
So, in my humble opinion, the big difference between a synth and a sampler is this : a synth has all the sounds already in it, a sampler doesn't. There are of course devices which cross this line, such as the Motif and Triton which have prestored sounds AND the ability to import new ones, but that's just semantics.
Take care,
Nick
HaZwaiOh
ILLIEN
ill o.g.
good point.
what do you think about sound modules? aren´t they like a sampler that can only play the sounds it came with? Can´t I just sample off a soundmodule and load it into a sampler? what´s so cool about soundmodules, because I see people getting excited about the proteus und mo phatt.
just wondering ....
what do you think about sound modules? aren´t they like a sampler that can only play the sounds it came with? Can´t I just sample off a soundmodule and load it into a sampler? what´s so cool about soundmodules, because I see people getting excited about the proteus und mo phatt.
just wondering ....
C
Copenhagen
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I apoligise Qwerty, even though I know that some people in here are new to producing, I thought that everbody knew what the basic stuff like sampler and synthesizer was etc. I'll try to have that in mind when I post 
Oh Yeah, Nick, there's a lot of piracy going on then cause you can find many commercial sample cd's on the net, at least that's what I'm told.
Oh Yeah, Nick, there's a lot of piracy going on then cause you can find many commercial sample cd's on the net, at least that's what I'm told.
vitaminman
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Hey,
I LOVE sound modules. What's great about them is that you don't have to worry about loading anything into them, all the sounds are ready to go when you turn it on. You also don't have to worry as much about other people having the same sounds as you, for the most part the only people who have those sounds are those who have that module.
Sound modules are generally cheaper than samplers as well. You can get a new Proteus for about $600, and hardware samplers are almost double the price. You have in theory an unlimited source of sounds that you can load into a sampler, but sometimes it's more productive to simply have the sounds ready at your fingertips to work with instead of digging through countless floppies or cdroms looking for the sounds you want.
You are correct, it is possible for someone to sample the sounds off a module and load them into a sampler, but the sounds won't have any of the clever programming information in them that the sound designers put into making the sound expressive through velocity, aftertouch and controllers. You could sample the raw waveforms off a module and program the modulation stuff into the sampler, but it would take a REALLY long time, plus there's the possibility that the sampler won't have the same modulation sources and routing as the module.
A good point is with the Emu line of modules: they have by far the most complex modulation sources and routing that only Emu samplers are able to replicate, if you tried to copy that information into an Akai sampler, you'd be stuck because the sample architecture of Akais isn't as complex.
I am a HUGE fan of the Proteus 2000, it has some killer sounds in it....I don't have to worry about loading samples or making sure that I have enough RAM.
Take care,
Nick
I LOVE sound modules. What's great about them is that you don't have to worry about loading anything into them, all the sounds are ready to go when you turn it on. You also don't have to worry as much about other people having the same sounds as you, for the most part the only people who have those sounds are those who have that module.
Sound modules are generally cheaper than samplers as well. You can get a new Proteus for about $600, and hardware samplers are almost double the price. You have in theory an unlimited source of sounds that you can load into a sampler, but sometimes it's more productive to simply have the sounds ready at your fingertips to work with instead of digging through countless floppies or cdroms looking for the sounds you want.
You are correct, it is possible for someone to sample the sounds off a module and load them into a sampler, but the sounds won't have any of the clever programming information in them that the sound designers put into making the sound expressive through velocity, aftertouch and controllers. You could sample the raw waveforms off a module and program the modulation stuff into the sampler, but it would take a REALLY long time, plus there's the possibility that the sampler won't have the same modulation sources and routing as the module.
A good point is with the Emu line of modules: they have by far the most complex modulation sources and routing that only Emu samplers are able to replicate, if you tried to copy that information into an Akai sampler, you'd be stuck because the sample architecture of Akais isn't as complex.
I am a HUGE fan of the Proteus 2000, it has some killer sounds in it....I don't have to worry about loading samples or making sure that I have enough RAM.
Take care,
Nick
@ H2O, yeah, there are sampling Cd's with multi-samples and stuff, but then there are Cd's with straight HipHop loops and things, and that's agaunst the artform....
@Vitaminman I can feel you, i only have the Proteus 100, but the sounds are nice, and there are many ways of fuckin arround with them...
@Vitaminman I can feel you, i only have the Proteus 100, but the sounds are nice, and there are many ways of fuckin arround with them...
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OneNineBlock
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i think tha best way to make a beat is to sample your own shit it comes out soundthing tha best in my opinion when u cut up ur shit and just peice it together to make a musical masterpeice
MGTheFuture
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ill o.g.
Get the akai 16 pad midi controller and Battery by native instruments...The mpc cant touch it...