Hip Hop Dead???

[J-malice]

architect- that is what i was sayin earlier and i cant argue too much with you either because to you hip hop is dead because most of the positive messages and all that has been stripped from the radio. and replaced with lessons on how to stunt.

but to us we generally dont wana hear no positive messages. lol (that sounds ignorant but hear me out) we jus wana have a good time. we wana go to the club 25 deep and wild out to lil jon sayin "we too deep off in dis bitch, we too deep off in dis bith" or we wana go to the club wit our fake azz platinum chains and diamonds and teach ppl how to stunt. so on and so forth like i said its become a way of life. gotta send a big respect to the originators of hip hop. but shit u gotta face it times done changed. for better? for worse? that depends on who you are.

 

[Formant024]

Conclusion ??? Commercial hiphop is boring us to death, therefor hiphop is dead and we're real! Not like the hiphop you see everyday on tv displaying all that's been summed up in this thread. And I ain't to bitch about normaly because I dont even bother to flip the remote to mtv or any other music chnl simply to avoid the crap you see n hear everyday, not even mentioning the commercial ads being pushed at your @ 20.000 frames per hour. Although I didnt live in the us back in '93/'94, it didn't annoy me to hear hiphop on mtv, I'd friggin' enjoy Dre & Ed Lover playin shit and tapin the tracks. It'll be the day that the commercial industry would place their bets on that state of mentality and defitly paying some respect to some real skills. Then people would stop thinking n wondering why hiphop is dead. These days it's a matter of finding new ways to force people into buying a new cat in the bag and forget about the pussy you bought last week, it's a fast consuming society and this is a result.

Nuff said, lets go indy!

 

[lilhatedon]

Originally posted by Architect
Hip-Hop is profitable, but that doesn't make me feel any better hearing 50 cent tell me how to stunt and turn around making millions of dollars or hearing another gangsta tale of someone murdering another 'N***a.

yeah i was wondering when some 1 would touch on it i'm glad 50 has blown up along with many others but sometimes i can't relate lmao this shit is funny

The P.I.M.P track 50 did peeps in the uk i.e pop teenie boppers and there parents basically non hip hop heads love the track which is kool monts later there sayin well we feel the women in the video reveal too much plus we don't like the lyrical content dat shit had been on for months played out it was spinning on the regular how months later they gonna say they don't like the lyrics the track is called P.I.M.P most people know what pimps are/do

as it as been mentioned b4 dancy beats and hooks is what they was checkin didn't even bother to check what the song was about:finger:

 

[lilhatedon]

my shit hip hop is a life style that i think will neva die i mean if sales went down companys pulled out people will still be doin it for the love dats the way it started dats the it will.................i would say end but it won't end

 

[Craig Gantt]

Put it like this as long as theres a ghetto theres gonna be hip hop whether it makes millions or not

 

[J-malice]

Originally posted by lilhatedon
people will still be doin it for the love dats the way it started dats the it will.................

nuff said. big up!

 

[o.Prime]

Originally posted by Architect
What I feel IS DEAD IN HIP-HOP is the original intent in my view to be progressive, to be a voice for the youth, to speak about the urban plight but in a good manner which can be encouraging and uplifting to the people that created it.

I agree with that 100%. I dont think that the music or the beats are really the problem with hiphop, I think its whats being said with the music is whats really phucking with some of us. I think more thought has to be put into lyrics and songs on the whole. Not to say artists need to come out with the most over-your-head-type-ish, but just sit and analyze their rhymes so they can be sure that there is not just filler in there. I think people need to be more sure that whats actually being said has some substance and that someone is going to relate to it. Thats why I think Murs is one of the most talented lyracists out there, because you can tell he thought about each and every line he wrote, and because his songs are actually songs, not just a bunch of scattered thougts.

 

[Equality 7-2521]

*sigh*

killing Hiphop is impossible.

Hiphop aint dead till every last Hiphoper is dead.......if Earth exploded, Hiphop would be dead.

 

[o-a-ksavage]

da rippa is trippin about puttin big pun in the same categorie as pac, biggie, nas and jay-z. he was more like a young gunz. he wasn't even ever near the top or ever one of the best rappers. i know the man's dead and all, but damn, he wasn't even really a good rapper in my opinion. the other are legends...maybe not nas...you MUST have just started listening to rap.

 

[bigdmakintrax]

The problem is there are too many artist trying to Focus on nothing but the material and trying to be like BET.....or MTV.....everyone wants to be one of the people in the Videos.....thats the fuggin problem and the first thing they think about is quickly getting an EP and doing a video......Most mainstream listeners want to hear whats easiest to get....the junk that most radio stations play and what Circuit City, Target & Best Buy sell.....that's all.....they only way Hip Hop will stay around is through the underground and people pushing units on their block........College listeners for the most part contribute to the life of the underground also.....but the big labels want to drown out everything with RAP & RAP music........Which once again I have to say that thanks to Radio and Labels anything with a beat to them is Hip Hop.........so anyhow here's to the underground.......

 

[Cold Truth]

*CHEERS*- BIGD

*JEERS*- o-a-ksavage..... look bro,i know you are new and all, but to put pun down with the young gunz? nas "maybe not" a legend? pun not even good? and da rippa "must have just started listening to rap"?

well, rippa is a actually a new school cat anyways (he said he was jay malice.... so thats where i get that from, if i'm wrong i apologize) so you may have a point there- but nowhere else. young gunz are a joke- pun was, lyrically, EXCEPTIONALLY GIFTED. i dont think he ranks as high as jay or nas or pac- and heck bigs only released two albums, just like pun, but i am on the west so there is no counting how many tracks are floating around that i havent heard from either of them. but they had an impact that outlasted their life on this earth, more than most of us will even TASTE in our careers..... so i think you are wrong there. HOWEVER.......

we are all entitled to our opinions here, so long as we are respectful. welcome to illmuzik.

 

[J-malice]

man pun is a puerto rican hip hop legend period. and lyrically....nigga please. no statement needed on the mans skills.

but either way when i said we gotta wait for the new jays nas's big's etc. im sayin that we gotta wait for the new rappers to come out that actually got somethin to say, and actually make tracks with substance and some form of meanin. when they come out then things should be all good. there will be the rappers thats out now that half of everyone likes, and the new jays big's etc. that the other half will like.

and im not sure but was every song that came out back then (when hip hop was "alive") meaninful and whatever else yall said hip hop lacks rite now?

and yea that was me that made the post. but i aint just start listenin to rap. ive been listenin to rap most my life, and been listenin to reggae the other part. EVEN IF pun wasnt in da same category as big pac jay and nas, ho would he fit in a category wit yung gunz???????????????

somebody trippin but it aint me.

 

[MIKELABZ]

hip hop aint dead tho its just sleep this is a period of transformation just like the stock market has ups and downs hip hop will do the same. give it time and pretty soon hip hop will become even more diversified then it already is and outside influences will help expand hip hop to an even broader sphere beyond the color barrier. i expect to see incorporation of spoken werd in hip hop in the near future. and all this commercialism will pass. its just a maturation process thats the way i see it. it seems like after 9/11 it has been more about personal feelings rather then platinum rings and bentleys. Just as the werld has changed i expect hip hop to follow. music never dies tho despite wut form it is.

L-Rock

 

[Medicine Man]

Hip-hop is gonna be revived soon................................................:dance: