Hate to renew the synth debate... but what abuot run dmc? whodini?

[Cold Truth]

since the biggest argument for samplers and diggers is "keeping true to the roots"... well... we're talking serious pioneers here who relied heavily on synths for their sound...

ll cool j as well..... i mean, "one love"- for those who dont know, nas go tthat from whodini-that whole song is a synth song.

just, you know, wondering, for those who say synths aint "real hip hop", what do you consider run dmc and whodini? do they lose their pioneer card now?

the beat for friends is a classic.......

maybe the songs were built off samples and i just dont know the sampled records, but they sound very D50-ish to me.......

 

[CampO]

I got a pretty good article in some magazine about synths vs samplers and the big debate i should Go digg it out from under my bed or wat ever pile its in cuz it had some interesting point on just what your talkin about

 

[DJ Hoppa]

synths are cool with me...




whatever makes good music, who the fuck am i to judge? 

 

[DJ Excellence]

I have nothing against synth beats, as a matter of fact some of my favorite producers use synths heavily. You made a good point, many cats forget that lots of early classic rap songs are synth-based. The real problem nowadays, is that people who don't know shit about music buy expensive keyboards, press a few keys and call themselve producers.

 

[Cold Truth]

hehe of course, same as fruity loops!

anyhow this just dawned on me. i was listening to "electric kingdom"... and thought, this is classic hip hop........ and its synth beats! ima show those sample heads something! lol just playin though, but thats something that always gets missed in the argument.

 

[CampO]

Heres Part of the Article

The First Official Rap Record of the hip hop era king Tim III (Personality Jock ) by the Fatback band didint even use turntables let alone samples

The Backing of GrandMasterFlash and the Furious 5 classic The Message was an orginal music compostion produced and played live

To Lazy 2 write anymore but it goes on to talk about alot of non Sampled Classics



Ezz.........

 

[bigdmakintrax]

I use all available weapons imma soldier....or at least used to be one.....LOL literally you can go back to grandmaster flash etc.....synths and elektro always been entertwined.......but some purists that just like to pick all of their sounds off vinyl and keep acoustic a lot of times just choose to stay away from that soundset......I think Wings posted an article a long time ago.....but if you consider yourself a producer its about the art of what you choose to do it with....if you write songs you must have some structure but if you doing hip hop Paint outside of the lines......you are a producer, an artist and you paint pictures with sound.......why would you have a pallete of colors if you are a painter and only use like 2 or 3 colors........that applies here.....I really don't know of anyone nowadays that are against synths completely, I mean Dre staying with G funk Roots never left them....and now the resurgance Synths in Beats like you hear from Lil Jon have fueled their placement back into a lot of the music again......honestly man its how you utilize any sound you can freak a synth and make it sound unique even make it sound like a sample so its on how you use the weapon....my beat in the showcase some people thought I used a sample....its completely done on the triton i just messed with the sounds....for an example.....and no Campo did not even Mention King Tim...fuggggg LOL