Gulf of Tonkin part 2

[Relic]

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/us-military-reports-skirmish-with-iran/?hp

I am still not convinced of the 911 conspiracy quite yet BUT I am quite positive of the conspiracy of Iraq.
Uncovered :The war on Iraq is an excellenct doc I suggest everyone watch so is
Weapons of Mass deception done by a former producer of 20/20.

I believe ALL parties responsible are guilty of Treason and should be Hung on the Capital blng steps.

BUT here we have SOMTHING goin on with Iran, just like Iraq I have no love for their gov at all, but neither do I think we need to actually invade them.
I wouldnt be surprised if this were an actual event or if it were staged its quite true that Iran fucks with our navy a great deal, even firing on them at times, but right now I dont believe shit comming out of washington.

Intrestingly enough, I cant find any Arab press at this time on google in regards to this.

 

[Guevara]

i havent read any of this but i just wanna know how youre not too convinced on the 9/11 "conspiracy" but youre sold on the iraq "conspiracy". thats like some chicken and the egg shit, but i dont believe in conspiracies. its all just currupt politics to me. everybody got they own personal interest....
how about this one. look up DEMOCRACY in a dictionary then look up CAPITALISM
by definition they shouldnt be able to coexist but America been doin it forever...its all about monkeys, i mean money.all i can say is pick up the newspaper everyday and read inbetween the lines.even all that BHUTTO shit. somebody (AMERICA) coulda stopped that, common sense will tell u that they (AMERICA AGAIN) had knowledge of that before it happened.The government and the media are not obligated to tell u the truth. its all entertainment, its kinda like that story i told about when they was shootin "i am legend" in the city, they make u look that way while all the real shit is happening right behind your back.Che

 

[Relic]

Bhutto herself had the knowledge and knew, they told her the danger and of the plot , but she wanted to do it(gop to that area) anyway..Who is to blame for her standing up outside of the vehicle? America did that? Made her stand up? everyone else in the vehicle was fine after the explosion it was armoured, but enough on that, Im not saying shit about 911 right now thats another thread, this is somthing that we can track from its outset with Iran , thats why I bring it up.

 

[manguino]

why all this fuzz about chaos in Pakistan now? The situation has been pretty turbulent for some time now. Ii might sound sarcastic, but in a huge country with 160 Million inhabitants a bomb blast here and there and a small riot here and there simply doesn´t mean chaos. the situation got worse recently as, for example, suicide bombings and riots happened in the capital as well, but most of the people do not really care about these things and want to live their life. they'll certainly blame the US for their problems though.

kinda off topic but one of the really tragic things about this recent development is that Bhutto created or at least helped to create the monster that killed her. she collaborated with the military and nurtured the Islamists that came up during Zia ul-Haqs reign. she was one of the few popular politicians in the country, but she did not really enjoy mass support from a majority of the people. schittloads of paki's were rather critical regarding her ambitions to become Pakistani prime minister again and the same goes for Nawaz Sharif. it´s sad, but currently the only parties with a well established structure are the islamists. Musharraf is certainly not the solution, but there won´t be any solution without him, now if he will be assassinated, that might cause trouble.