This was originally a pm message to God, but his PM box was full and he hasnt been online since 8-28 or so.
So I will post it up here as most of you guys know lots more than I do, but i need to learn and am very willing.
copy/past of PM to God.
Dear God,
I respect how you take so much time to give your best possible advice and knowledge in your posts/replies. I tried to put as much time into this because I know you do the same.
I am 18, in my senior year of H.S here in good old Oklahoma where, well, the music industry is a little less than par. Hell we could even call it a triple bogie. Its just not here yet. I was thinking of going to an in-state university and getting some music industry major
My first question:
What majors can you think of that entail a music industry background at a 4 yr? (business side of the music industry, working for a major record company in the business side)
I started looking at Full Sail and schools of the like about a year ago, for a more engineering career. The $39,000 tuition fee scared me and I left the idea. I am now coming back to that idea, but my dad (my mom doesn’t work) brings in over 100,000 a year, making it near impossible (as far as I know) to get good financial aid (free money, no load bs) . What the financial aid people don’t take into consideration is that my family has 11 kids, so we see closer to the income of a $35,000 or less. I have looked into Video Symphony, the $11,000 tuition looks attractive. But with Full Sail, you leave with a degree, (Associate of Science Degree, or take Entertainment Business curriculum and leave with a Bachelor of Science Degree), and with Video Symphony, you get a certificate, (Avid or Pro Tools Certificate).
My second question:
In "the real world" of the music industry, would the two be equal? i.e., if I had my certificate from Video Symphony and applied for a job, and a guy with a degree from Full Sail applied at the same time, would the guy with the degree look better/have a better chance of getting the job?
Full sail lists the some careers in the music industry that you will be prepared for upon completion of their program:
(and their description of the career)
*Career-- (full sail short description)
*A&R --(AR is to Artist as PR is to business)
*Asst. Engineer-- (shadows the engineers and ensures that sessions run smoothly, from set up to client hospitality to paperwork preparation)
*Broadcast Engineer --(fader-guiding, head-bobbing, on-site guru)
*Dialogue Editor-- (Plugs in the right words at the right time)
*Foley Recordist/Editor --(if a sound isn’t there, does it really exist? It can, because a Foley artist can create it)
*General Assistant/Runner-- (solves the ever-present problem, " We're gonna need _______ in here right away")
*Intern --(makes the best cup of coffee on the planet. Says yes a to, listens, learns, and smiles while doing it)
*Location Sound Engineer-- (organizes sound equipment and personnel while maintaining audio quality and sync)
*Mastering Engineer --(the fine tuning expert. Makes it sound perfect, with the client's creative insight)
*Mix Engineer (--assembles all of the components for a great recording. Puts it all together)
*Music Editor-- (this person is the reason why you jump out of your seat when something scary happens on screen)
*Music Producer-- (point person for the artist. Maintains artistic integrity by liaising with the engineers and the record labels)
*Pro Tools Operator-- (keeps the pro tools system running properly so the engineer doesn’t have to worry about it)
*Programmer-- (the producer asks for the Neo Old Psychedelic string sound. the programmer know the right synthesizer and patch to modify)
Third question (might take awhile) :
What do you know that you think a student should know BEFORE attempting to an attempt to pursue a career in these industries? (basically can you summarize in layman’s terms what each of these careers entail and what NOT to attempt to go into)
mostly these:
Asst. Engineer
Broadcast Engineer
Foley Recordist/Editor
General Assistant/Runner
Intern
Mastering Engineer
Mix Engineer
Music Editor
Music Producer
I think I like Mastering Engineer the most. I love spending lots of time moving levels up and down to see what will happen almost as much as I like thinking up beats.
next question:
Are these careers becoming filled like one of your posts said. (too many people, not enough jobs)
I plan on leaving Oklahoma for my career and maybe coming back when I retire but not staying during my prime money making years.
Last question:
Which side of the industry do you think would be best to pursue a career? Engineering side, business side, or other?
Add ANY advice or input you can think of, all information/opinions/advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much
Sam
PS. HTML is handy
So I will post it up here as most of you guys know lots more than I do, but i need to learn and am very willing.
copy/past of PM to God.
Dear God,
I respect how you take so much time to give your best possible advice and knowledge in your posts/replies. I tried to put as much time into this because I know you do the same.
I am 18, in my senior year of H.S here in good old Oklahoma where, well, the music industry is a little less than par. Hell we could even call it a triple bogie. Its just not here yet. I was thinking of going to an in-state university and getting some music industry major
My first question:
What majors can you think of that entail a music industry background at a 4 yr? (business side of the music industry, working for a major record company in the business side)
I started looking at Full Sail and schools of the like about a year ago, for a more engineering career. The $39,000 tuition fee scared me and I left the idea. I am now coming back to that idea, but my dad (my mom doesn’t work) brings in over 100,000 a year, making it near impossible (as far as I know) to get good financial aid (free money, no load bs) . What the financial aid people don’t take into consideration is that my family has 11 kids, so we see closer to the income of a $35,000 or less. I have looked into Video Symphony, the $11,000 tuition looks attractive. But with Full Sail, you leave with a degree, (Associate of Science Degree, or take Entertainment Business curriculum and leave with a Bachelor of Science Degree), and with Video Symphony, you get a certificate, (Avid or Pro Tools Certificate).
My second question:
In "the real world" of the music industry, would the two be equal? i.e., if I had my certificate from Video Symphony and applied for a job, and a guy with a degree from Full Sail applied at the same time, would the guy with the degree look better/have a better chance of getting the job?
Full sail lists the some careers in the music industry that you will be prepared for upon completion of their program:
(and their description of the career)
*Career-- (full sail short description)
*A&R --(AR is to Artist as PR is to business)
*Asst. Engineer-- (shadows the engineers and ensures that sessions run smoothly, from set up to client hospitality to paperwork preparation)
*Broadcast Engineer --(fader-guiding, head-bobbing, on-site guru)
*Dialogue Editor-- (Plugs in the right words at the right time)
*Foley Recordist/Editor --(if a sound isn’t there, does it really exist? It can, because a Foley artist can create it)
*General Assistant/Runner-- (solves the ever-present problem, " We're gonna need _______ in here right away")
*Intern --(makes the best cup of coffee on the planet. Says yes a to, listens, learns, and smiles while doing it)
*Location Sound Engineer-- (organizes sound equipment and personnel while maintaining audio quality and sync)
*Mastering Engineer --(the fine tuning expert. Makes it sound perfect, with the client's creative insight)
*Mix Engineer (--assembles all of the components for a great recording. Puts it all together)
*Music Editor-- (this person is the reason why you jump out of your seat when something scary happens on screen)
*Music Producer-- (point person for the artist. Maintains artistic integrity by liaising with the engineers and the record labels)
*Pro Tools Operator-- (keeps the pro tools system running properly so the engineer doesn’t have to worry about it)
*Programmer-- (the producer asks for the Neo Old Psychedelic string sound. the programmer know the right synthesizer and patch to modify)
Third question (might take awhile) :
What do you know that you think a student should know BEFORE attempting to an attempt to pursue a career in these industries? (basically can you summarize in layman’s terms what each of these careers entail and what NOT to attempt to go into)
mostly these:
Asst. Engineer
Broadcast Engineer
Foley Recordist/Editor
General Assistant/Runner
Intern
Mastering Engineer
Mix Engineer
Music Editor
Music Producer
I think I like Mastering Engineer the most. I love spending lots of time moving levels up and down to see what will happen almost as much as I like thinking up beats.
next question:
Are these careers becoming filled like one of your posts said. (too many people, not enough jobs)
I plan on leaving Oklahoma for my career and maybe coming back when I retire but not staying during my prime money making years.
Last question:
Which side of the industry do you think would be best to pursue a career? Engineering side, business side, or other?
Add ANY advice or input you can think of, all information/opinions/advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much
Sam
PS. HTML is handy
