Devil's Advocates: Horrorcore (Hip-Hop)

[FTdub]

That was an impressive post, can you quote any ohter references that don't come from rza.
Are you a 5 percenter, you know too much.

 

[Cleverwon]

That was an impressive post, can you quote any ohter references that don't come from rza.
Are you a 5 percenter, you know too much.

Yea, I'll put some more up soon. I'm moving into the new crib right now, so I'm a little busy.

 

[Copenhagen]

Very interesting post Cleverwon, I didn't know much of that. Have always been more into beats than lyrics, but will have to pay more attention to this in the future, as well as look for some articles about it.

 

[Cleverwon]

Aight, listen to the track called Wu Revolution off the double cd. Everything the man is speaking about is all 5 percent teachings...

Street Life on Hellz Wind Staff: "The streets are deep Son every day is like a rerun/So I reach out and try to teach one/But eighty-five percent uncivilized content..." Again he's referring to the 85%...

More Later. I'm at work right now.

 

[SyN]

so does this all mean that you are all scared by the evil sounding beats and lyrics... but its all good to rap about just shootin someone in the head cause he was on the wrong block?

 

[benny beatz]

i have some good friends who were raised muslim or converted. alot of them "know" whats up...

the idea of true knowledge is something that is pretty much indescribable... one feels it... its a spiritual awakening... but i feel that no one really ever reaches full enlightenment while they are on this earth though... the most one can get is just a glimpse of it...

I totally agree with the distinctions you mentioned... nothing is more vile than someone who knows the truth but refuses to accept it... motherfuckers who are decieving themselves... and therefore have no morals whatsoever... i've seen this shit first hand... ironically, i remember you posting a reply to my topic about having a criminal record, saying how i should be ashamed of it etc... i said i wasnt ashamed of what i did, and thats because the reason i got in trouble is because i got in a fight with a kid who i consider to be one of those 10% motherfuckers...

don't get me wrong, i respect islam, but fuck anyone who kills innocent men, women and children in the name of it... the world is a fucked up place... people gotta find peace within themselves, and global peace will follow..

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[Cleverwon]

i have some good friends who were raised muslim or converted. alot of them "know" whats up...

the idea of true knowledge is something that is pretty much indescribable... one feels it... its a spiritual awakening... but i feel that no one really ever reaches full enlightenment while they are on this earth though... the most one can get is just a glimpse of it...

I totally agree with the distinctions you mentioned... nothing is more vile than someone who knows the truth but refuses to accept it... motherfuckers who are decieving themselves... and therefore have no morals whatsoever... i've seen this shit first hand... ironically, i remember you posting a reply to my topic about having a criminal record, saying how i should be ashamed of it etc... i said i wasnt ashamed of what i did, and thats because the reason i got in trouble is because i got in a fight with a kid who i consider to be one of those 10% motherfuckers...

don't get me wrong, i respect islam, but fuck anyone who kills innocent men, women and children in the name of it... the world is a fucked up place... people gotta find peace within themselves, and global peace will follow..

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The Nation of Gods and Earths and the nation of Islam are 2 different things. And I never said you should be ashamed of a criminal record, so if that was directed to me then you better get your shit correct if you're using quotes to try and make a point, or else you look like an asshole.

 

[Copenhagen]

I got interested in the subject, and found the following links:

About the 5 percenters or "in the news":
http://comp.uark.edu/~tsweden/5per.html
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f14.html
http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/
http://www.stud.u-szeged.hu/Bihari.Gyorgy.2/thenation.htm
http://www.mindspring.com/~scpoint/point/9604/p06.html
http://www.angelfire.com/sc/originalO/
http://home.att.net/~uif/fivepercenters.html
http://www.thetalkingdrum.com/nge.html
http://ourislamonline.tripod.com/id274.htm

Supreme alphabet:
http://www.blackapologetics.com/supremealpha.html

 

[benny beatz]

The Nation of Gods and Earths and the nation of Islam are 2 different things. And I never said you should be ashamed of a criminal record, so if that was directed to me then you better get your shit correct if you're using quotes to try and make a point, or else you look like an asshole.

aight looking back i did misquote you... you said having a criminal record is nothing to be proud of which i agree with... but i felt that my actions in that situation were justified for the reasons i stated... but whatever... i apologize... you're right... there is a subtle distinction between being "not being proud of" and being "ashamed" of something...

i got no hard feelings, i wasn't trying to criticize you or anything... i was just agreeing with some of the philosophy you were talkin about, and mentioning a personal experience i have had with it... a situation whose consequence i had described on these forums before, and ironically, you had commented on... i agree with your comment too, i think in alot of criminal cases, the criminal suffered a lapse in morality... but i felt morally justified in assaulting one of these "devils" after being provoked to...

i had some more questions but i found out the answers from copenhagen's links...

this is just a misunderstanding... i hope we can leave it at that...

 

[Cleverwon]

aight looking back i did misquote you... you said having a criminal record is nothing to be proud of which i agree with... but i felt that my actions in that situation were justified for the reasons i stated... but whatever... i apologize... you're right... there is a subtle distinction between being "not being proud of" and being "ashamed" of something...

i got no hard feelings, i wasn't trying to criticize you or anything... i was just agreeing with some of the philosophy you were talkin about, and mentioning a personal experience i have had with it... a situation whose consequence i had described on these forums before, and ironically, you had commented on... i agree with your comment too, i think in alot of criminal cases, the criminal suffered a lapse in morality... but i felt morally justified in assaulting one of these "devils" after being provoked to...

i had some more questions but i found out the answers from copenhagen's links...

this is just a misunderstanding... i hope we can leave it at that...

Nah man, fuck you... Nah, i'm playin dog, its cool.

 

[Copenhagen]

Having read more into the subject, I think that the organisation is filled with double standards like any other religion, and the people who worship it.
It's especially ironic how many rappers speak on how bad they (or black people) have been and are treated by "white" cops, "white" suits and sometimes white people in general, and they call for and fight for fairness and respectance, yet they religions don't respect other races either etc.
This is not to speak on race, it's just an example. However, an example that irritates me as a white person who has no involvement in the negative aspects of their "struggles".
This is why I dislike religion, even though it brings out the best in many people, it also seems to be the cause of much evil since the day of time.

 

[Cleverwon]

Having read more into the subject, I think that the organisation is filled with double standards like any other religion, and the people who worship it.
It's especially ironic how many rappers speak on how bad they (or black people) have been and are treated by "white" cops, "white" suits and sometimes white people in general, and they call for and fight for fairness and respectance, yet they religions don't respect other races either etc.
This is not to speak on race, it's just an example. However, an example that irritates me as a white person who has no involvement in the negative aspects of their "struggles".
This is why I dislike religion, even though it brings out the best in many people, it also seems to be the cause of much evil since the day of time.

Actually, if you dig deeper you'll find out that the Nation of Gods and Earths isn't a religion, but a way of living so to speak. And although very rare, there are white Gods and Earths as well as other races too.

 

[juzblazwun]

Gravediggaz first ablum was the Shit. Flatliners also. I remember alopt of my homiez weren't feeling it. Saying that they couldn't get into it. Now it's a classic and I still bump G-R-A-V-E-D-I-G-G-A- to da zig zag "Z"! Gravedigga- *igga- 6 Feet Deep!