Definitely a must see video...

Sucio

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If you guys haven't seen it yet.

No synopsis needed, just post your thoughts...
 

UNORTHODOX

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wow, J Elect tho? Benzino is SO off base on everything LMAO.
 

Sucio

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That's what got me...the whole Jay electronica thing....

I mean that is some crazy/deep shit they're getting into...

I dunno man...sounds outlandish, but possible at the same time, you know?
 

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That's what got me...the whole Jay electronica thing....

I mean that is some crazy/deep shit they're getting into...

I dunno man...sounds outlandish, but possible at the same time, you know?

True, but its the way they went about it that ruined it. Benzino isnt exactly the catalyst from hiphop I'd use to expose someone lol. I Jay came out with it just as a DVD, documentary style, I'd believe it a bit more imo.

I was shocked Jay even said this tho. I know he's that type of person but I guess the way they did it makes it suspicious idk
 

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Yeah...I don't understand why he would involve himself in that situation...especially since he's still relatively unknown..

I don't think that's a way to get into the game....already making enemies..
 

dacalion

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I think Benz has a point, but he cant fugg with Em. Em is just too strong in every aspect for Benzino to be heard or even takened seriously. That initial ish that Em did was pretty fugged up imo.
 

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Controversy sells....

I'm not a fan of the whole situation, actually...I think it was complete and utter immaturity and bullshit....

It is what it is, I guess...
 

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what it is...is "old shit"...this is old beef...everyone knows the state of hip hop...the state of the world and how the powers that be work...me personally...Im not feelin either artist...Em's nice and all but to me he aint really never spit nothing that I could "feel"...neither has Benzino. It also seemed weird to have J "Elect" mediating things sort of speak...I mean when this beef initially started, was J Elect even an "unsigned hype" at the time?...just curious.
 

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what it is...is "old shit"...this is old beef...everyone knows the state of hip hop...the state of the world and how the powers that be work...me personally...Im not feelin either artist...Em's nice and all but to me he aint really never spit nothing that I could "feel"...neither has Benzino. It also seemed weird to have J "Elect" mediating things sort of speak...I mean when this beef initially started, was J Elect even an "unsigned hype" at the time?...just curious.

naw i think he was just plaing a role on Benzino's behalf. Thos it totally fits his style...
 

dacalion

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yeah but the only thing I got from what J was saying was nothing, and I thought that J needed to stfu! He was making a total @$$ of himself imo.
 

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yeah but the only thing I got from what J was saying was nothing,...

I'm rollin laughin! I wish I couldve heard you say that in real life. so funny.
 

dacalion

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Here's the official ish...

http://www.petitiononline.com/ebony/petition.html

yeah man, Em nor anybody else could talk their way outta that other than just publicly admitting they fugged up and it was a degrading racist statement and perception. I think Em is a great rapper, I don't like his style, I don't even care for his flow but I think Em could destroy anybody out there in a lyrical battle hands down so he gets some respect from me for that only.

That ish was a blow to the entire hip hop community imo. I mean its old news and things have moved on now but I do understand Benzino's thoughts eventhough he's a little offbase as DOX put it on everything...lol.
 

dacalion

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Pharaoh Monche might be one of the best rappers blessing a mic but that battle ish is a different game. Thats how Em got on so you know his battle word play is top level ish. In a head to head battle straight off the top...I think Em would destroy him. jmo.
 

Sucio

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I remember that whole thing about him talking shit about black women in his rhymes:

Kind of a double standard, huh? But you got Black men in hip-hop doing worse towards "their sistas" than Em did in a few lines. How many times a black person in hip-hop said something derogatory towards white people in their songs or even in their beliefs? How many songs you hear about killing police officers (namely white officers?) It's a double standard and I think it's utter bullshit...

I don't condone any of it, let that be clear. But how is negatively treated differently because of the color of a man's skin? So one is tolerated and the other isn't?

I hope one day Em says "nigga" in a song. Not in a derogatory way, necessarily...But say something like "My nigga came thru..." or something to that effect...I would actually love every second of it. I know a lot of white people who say the N word and it's perfectly fine to fellow african americans.

Of course an explanation to his lyrics wasn't good enough....however it's ok on the other side...

the guy is an artist in a genre of music dominated by black people, associating himself with black artists (Proof was one of his best friends), how can he be racist??

I think that part is just a way for people to discount the white boy from being a great rapper and being placed on the same level as those of a Rakim and Biggie..

IN MY OPINION: I think a lot of the "Pro-black" hip-hop artists/pioneers/whatever want to keep the art as a "black thing".

Em rapped about killing his wife/ex-wife/wife/ex-wife in numerous songs and it's not that serious....

But 2-3 bars about a black woman stirs up the most shit....

This race shit is ridiculous. I'm so fed up with it, honestly.

If a white dude has something to say....let the man say it.....if a black dude has something to say....let the man say it......

If you don't like it, don't buy his shit...End of story. If enough people don't buy their shit, they will switch it up.....
 

dacalion

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hahaha Im not touching that...but I gotta say this, this post is about to get fugged up... Sucio, you're cool with me but your comments just opened the door for "racial discussions" which, as we all know, turn into "racial disagreements".

It may be ok in fla. for white guys to drop the N bomb on blacks, but here... you better be wearing a UFC approved mouthpiece if you are around the right people...and thats all Im gonna say about that...lol.
 

Sucio

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Well, it was cool in NY and in NYC as well...

So yeah...I don't know how they do in NC....

Yeah...it's a touchy subject, so I won't really get into it any further...Just see a lot of shit that I cannot stand, anymore...

I'm tired of hip-hop hating each other...it's the reason why hip-hop gets such a bad name..
 
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