consistency

blak flame

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who do you think is the most consistent producer in the game in terms of who always has a hot beat everytime they drop one.
 
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rjd2 is a king when it comes to producing beats for Mcs.
 

Phonetik

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Actually Rjd2 isnt known for his beats for mcs. He is great at it, but he is truly known for his instrumentals. Lots of mcs find it hard to rhyme over his beats because there are so many stages in his songs. Butm Big up for mentioning Rj.
 
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yeah i know he is better for instrumentals.....but thats one of the reasons why he is so good at making beats for Mcs. if you can make a solid instrumental album which holds the listeners attention, then you are more than capable of making beats for Mcs than a producer who has only ever made beats for Mcs eg premier.

but looking at his production on Soul Position and his beats on Loose Ends (previously unreleased beats with Mcs) he is miles ahead of cats these days.

premier loops shit and never tried to be a better beat maker. he stayed in idle possesion of making headknod beats and thats it.
 

Streetwize

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^premier doesnt loop shit most of the time. he is one of the illest choppers of samples ever, that statement u made is crazy. dont get me wrong, he does loop SOMETIMES and i love RJD2 but premo is the dude that has influenced pretty much every producer nowadays includng RJD2 im sure.

id go with premo too. maybe Bink too. his shit is so clean all the time

g@Vin c@$h said:
You can't forget about Swiss Beatz. Swiss Beatz kills it.

wtf

that dude is complete garbage
 

g@Vin c@$h

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are you serious???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

If Swiss Beatz was garbage he wouldn't be one of the top producers in NYC. He wouldn't have produced tons of DMX's tracks, or Jadakisses for that matter. Or TONS OF STUFF. I can understand if you don't like his style but tons of people do. And he's very consistent.
 

Shonsteez

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Even tho he's jus startin to really get fame - I say ANT has had his shit on lock for days and he always has samples for days that are freakin bannana's!...Dudes jus got a natural flow that feels right on tha drum machines and tha turntables....At least ANT has grown quite a bit too....Jus look at Musab's album he really started using different instrumentation in that album than never before and tha cat jus keeps on growin'.
 

blak flame

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dj premier is one of the best when it comes to choppin samples and i think he is one of the most consistent...but i say dr. dre is #1...i ain't never heard a beat that dre had somethin to do wit i didn't like...even though he don't make the whole beat his self he is the mastermind behind them...he does the drum pattern and the mixing, scott storch does the keys and mike elizondo does the guitar and sometimes the keys
 

Streetwize

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g@Vin c@$h said:
are you serious???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

If Swiss Beatz was garbage he wouldn't be one of the top producers in NYC. He wouldn't have produced tons of DMX's tracks, or Jadakisses for that matter. Or TONS OF STUFF. I can understand if you don't like his style but tons of people do. And he's very consistent.

the reason for why he is producing tons of tracks for ruff ryders is cos hes like dmx's cousin or some shit. thats the only way he got into the game, not because of talent. its because he knew someone in the game who hooked him up. shit, his shit is pure garbage, he USE to make a few decent joints back in the day but he is completely wack. he ruins cds, any cd with a swizz beat is automatically a non-classic to me...same goes for neptunes
 

Tutu aka Snake

Beatmaker
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I have to agree with blak flame. Dre is the best producer ever! And I think many, many people will agree with that. He just got the 'magic' touch.
 

Cold Truth

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oh boy... here it goes.

swizz is actually a relative of a ruff ryders executive-not sure if its management or ownership.
i can see we have a "status+sales=skills" type dude in gavin cash... and that just isnt the case, sorry to say.

as for the premier argument... dude is nice and has a waiting line for beats. everyone oves him...
my beef with him is that for all his hip hop preaching, ala krs one, as far as keepin it true to hip hops foundation, he sure has worked with a lot cats that dont fit that mold.. snoop.. nore...lox...even limp bizkit... i never thought i would see a guy who sells himself out to himself....
but primo sure has plenty of times. his beats are always a lock though, you rarely hear a wack beat, but you havent exactly heard growth either.

rjd2.... now were talkin... this dude could teach the vets something. my current favorite...he is always on point, but doesnt have the longevity and consistantly extensive catalog to win this one from me....

consistancy... thats a joke to me nowadays.

i will hrow out jay dees name, however. his work is just as extensive as anyone elses and he has done pharcyde, tribe called quest, slum village, common, the roots, you name it.... i didnt like jaylib though. i liked twotracks, and they were among the best i heard last year.
 

MarkN

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my choice is dr dre, simply b'coz everything he puts out i like, hes had a number of classic albums e.g chronic, 2001, and put in work for many others eg. early snoop stuff ! He's even had crossover hits with mary j and eve ! He just always seems to get it right wen it comes to beats, and maybe if detox every drops we might have one more classic from him !
 

g@Vin c@$h

Beatmaker
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MarkN said:
my choice is dr dre, simply b'coz everything he puts out i like, hes had a number of classic albums e.g chronic, 2001, and put in work for many others eg. early snoop stuff ! He's even had crossover hits with mary j and eve ! He just always seems to get it right wen it comes to beats, and maybe if detox every drops we might have one more classic from him !
Dre is "tha shiznit" Actually I look up to Dre more than anybody else in the game.

Cold Truth said:
oh boy... here it goes.

swizz is actually a relative of a ruff ryders executive-not sure if its management or ownership.
i can see we have a "status+sales=skills" type dude in gavin cash... and that just isnt the case, sorry to say.

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I don't think that status + sales = skills, but I do think that it says something if people buy your stuff.
I'm gonna find you this beat that Swizz did with shyne that is sick tight
 

Streetwize

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people dont buy HIS stuff, they buy the artists stuff. people dont buy their album cos swizz is producing. i dont buy ruff ryders albums cos i KNOW swizz is the main producer and i cant stand listening to trash. (apart from jadakiss whos production isnt mainly swizz)

face it, hes the most horrible producer who is rich cos he produces for people like dmx and ruff ryders

wack trash imho
 

J Rilla

Tha Fresh Prince of L.A.
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Timbo da King......pretty much every year since he broke out in 96 he has had a hit. Alot of years he has had mutiple hits.......but it aint really about all that hits he has had on the radio.In my opinion he has made a record that i feel is classc production every year.Some of u may not agree,but like said in my opinion,which is what this thread is about our personal opinions
 

Shonsteez

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Hmmm? i guess i jus dont get a rise outa most mainstream cats anymore? I openly admit timbo is ill and has been for quite some time, but i think that theres other well known cats that have been boarderline on breakin through for days but havent got any reckognition like my boi ANT or for that matter BIG JESS that have been doin shit on tha under longer than some of those maintream dudes or at least mos definitly for tha same amount of time as the rest - but with no dap. Its like all politics...See its funny to me, cuz tha reason i even bring this up is cuz i see a producer like ANT and for example, Tim - to be in tha same catagory of "hot, consistant hits" that deserve recognition, but since its all politics, cats like Big Jess or Ant arent gonna get tha upper hand because for tha most part everyone judges by whether this dude or that dude went multiplatnum, or this cat was on Mtv like everyday and on tha radio every day and made a commercial hit so he must be better than these other cats....Ahhhh forget it!!....Why do i try!?
 
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