Can Some One Break Down The Benifit Of 12 Bit Samples

[JPeg]

Cos I've been thinking about this alot recently, is 12-bit only banging when sampled on vintage machines such as the s950, mpc60 and the sp1200?

If thats the case then im thinking its most likely the A/D converters making shit bang.

Cos im sure when u already have a wave on ur pc that is 16-bit and u reduce the bit rate u dont get the same effect do u?

 

[mc_reni]

If the bit rate is reduced to 12 on a PC it wont sound the same. 12 bit samplers sound the way they do because they are old and the sampling engine behind them where a lot more simple than the ones we have to day.

Also its not only the s950, mpc60 and sp1200 that gets the same kinda sound, i got a shitty akai s20 12 bit sampler just to sample my drums and then I send the drums to my pc, this gets that same 12 bit grimey sound.

 

[2_nice]

S20 Is 16 Bit

 

[bigdmakintrax]

Well I sold my SP1200 recently to another member here on illmuzik but b4 doing so I sampled all of my dopest, deepest sounds to use in my triton....and being that I have owned, the SP1200, SP12 and S950 for some years, and also religiously use soundForge and other software to change bit rates, sampling for audio shaping and processing etc.....you cannot get that same effect using the software, you will have a reasonable knock off of that type of sound....but I found that sampling directly from the old machine and using the sample in a 16 bit sampler you have a pretty good duplication of that.....also these machines were purely analog in the processing circuitry and filters

 

[Loose Cannon]

Yes, the S20 is 16-bit.

But the S20 doesnt have an anti-aliasing filter, so when you reduce the quality, it really just sounds real grimy. Because the S20 is kind of old. Its notr because Akai wanted it to sound grimy when you resample to a lower quality.

Just about all ausio editing software on computers im pretty sure have anti-aliasing filters on them so once you resample it still sounds to perfect. The old hardware ones dont.

 

[mercurywaters]

i can get a real grimey sound from asr-x by reducing the sample bits. it also works with reducing mp3 sample rates too. take a wav of a snare and encode to 64 for 48 kbps. it will give you some grime. its a different sound than the old sp1200 and s950 but its still dope