anyone here make beats with..

[bigdmakintrax]

Ok I had the Motif 1st Generation, I loved how you could program the parts.....I got the Fantom and kept it 2 weeks.....then and offer I could not refuse came along.....my last 1st and last good track took 2nd place behind Deuce,.....so anyhow I went in to trade the Fantom-S, I was not as satisfied with the ability to easily string together beats and bring in parts.....for some reason that whole pads section is tight but I couldn't get the bad experience using the sp505 out of my head which quickly found its way back to the store within a day for slow sample loading etc....dont get me wrong the visual and mastering section alone make it a top choice board.......I do not like how you set up the sample kits and program parts on the pads.....I mean I guess I was used to the Motif....but after almost 2 weeks I still sort had this feeling of.......Toy???? I dunno but anyhow I went to pick up the Motif ES.....but in the process of trading the Fantom up for the Mo, I ran into the eyecatcher of the keyboard section the Triton Extreme and as I type I am putting together a straight banger, the wildest thing about the board it has a fuggin Vacuum tube right there, a real Tube amp built into the board and does it work ......damn man anyhow I think this is my last purchase.....I gotta get solid with this board but it is easier to put together a simple sequence on the Triton....I'll have more reviews as I learn the piece...

 

[jwalk]

when did the fantom come out?

 

[pirell]

Ok I had the Motif 1st Generation, I loved how you could program the parts.....I got the Fantom and kept it 2 weeks.....then and offer I could not refuse came along.....my last 1st and last good track took 2nd place behind Deuce,.....so anyhow I went in to trade the Fantom-S, I was not as satisfied with the ability to easily string together beats and bring in parts.....for some reason that whole pads section is tight but I couldn't get the bad experience using the sp505 out of my head which quickly found its way back to the store within a day for slow sample loading etc....dont get me wrong the visual and mastering section alone make it a top choice board.......I do not like how you set up the sample kits and program parts on the pads.....I mean I guess I was used to the Motif....but after almost 2 weeks I still sort had this feeling of.......Toy???? I dunno but anyhow I went to pick up the Motif ES.....but in the process of trading the Fantom up for the Mo, I ran into the eyecatcher of the keyboard section the Triton Extreme and as I type I am putting together a straight banger, the wildest thing about the board it has a fuggin Vacuum tube right there, a real Tube amp built into the board and does it work ......damn man anyhow I think this is my last purchase.....I gotta get solid with this board but it is easier to put together a simple sequence on the Triton....I'll have more reviews as I learn the piece...

im sorry, but this seems like from someone thats blown by the wind..the sort of guys that say " oooh the neptunes and Dre use the triton"....you cant have any of those workstations for 2 weeks and tell me..oh i didnt get this or that. yeah im not a super pro with hardware, but 2 WEEKS?? go to the fantom's user forum, and see what people have done with this. you will also find the same on a triton forum...so their abilities are closer than people try and make out. so you try this and that out for 2 weeks, jumping from keyboard to keyboard that way shows ur inconsistency. if all you wanted to do was in 5 minutes to start making bangers as you said, then you might as well buy dance Ejay or a yamaha psr 200. using preset beats and all that..is nothing.

 

[bigdmakintrax]

Hey I'm not blown by the wind it's that I found the built in sounds sort of Synth like including drums so I had to use my samples of course.......as far as presets I NEVER use them...I do all of my own drum and part programming........plus I knew someone with the original that I got a chance to work out on for a few months....I have been working with very good gear and I have a degree in a computer discipline so it doesn't take long to figure the menus out etc so the learning curve of deciding how easy or hard to program sequencer shouldn't take months to figure out how efficient or not efficient it is....with that I have a lot of pieces to use to compare on how fast I can get my idea onto the board and out........but you're wrong about being blown by the wind I spent 2 weeks average 5 hours a day trying to get my production back on line, my beat in the comp was made completely on the Fantom.......I think it takes you longer to get to the end product though, I was looking for the quickest intuitive interface man when I have an idea.....I mean that whole thing of setting up the kits is very time consuming and bring them back up and then map patterns to the keyboard to cut them in and out is a major time overhead to me???.....Question...do you own one?.....hehehe anyhow I was impressed for a few days but getting down to even some of the things you can do in a soft program Like Fruity loops its a lil easier, using the keyboard and numeric pads on Fruity loops is much more responsive.......sequencing on the Triton is easier than either the Motif or the Fantom man.....I had a Triton a few years ago and found it very easy to use.....I am not motivated to buy gear based on Dre or the Neptunes, I have been using hardware gear since about 5 or 6 years ago, I have used the S950, the SP12 and still currently use my SP1200, I just think that the whole idea of the pads at least on the S model do not even have the responsiveness as using the keyboard so for hand bangin a beat the pads do not cut it.....but having to preprogram the patterns/rhythm and the way you do it seems like it could have been done a little better, I make my decisions based on how easy the sequencer is to use and if I want to construct a song......I like the Motif for the sounds and as I said I had the classic almost 2years b4 I sold it......but I never liked that sequencer......plus the Triton comes with over 3000 sounds and some of the old classic sounds.....the triton studio....and bottom line my decision was based on the VERY good Deal i got on the board including the fact this board is a BEAST........Also I do think that they verify what I found by coming out with Fantom-X so soon to compensate for some of these problems including the pads and maybe making those things I found left to your own memory, maybe an upgraded OS will take care of some of the shortcomings I found which were minimal.

 

[pirell]

answer : yes i do own a fantom. and...i guess each to their own. im not gonna beat my chest and stand by any workstation 100%, but alot of guys just run out and get gear they hardly really bother spending time to discover and explore the stuff before instantly getting bored or frustrated with it, looking for what the IT producer of the moment uses (when he could be using all of the above or NONE of the above) and then instantly swearing allegiance to that piece of hardware,

i mean someone posted some time back that he hated the fantom and was getting sumin else that this and that producer were using, his main beef was down to the fact that he found the pads were hard and had to really hit them hard to get sound from them fearing for their longevity.!!! i mean... what BS is that... if he had bothered, it was blatantly obvious that you coudl change the sensitivity settings and sound to realistic or manual. *hiss* but if you feel convinced..then you know why i guess.

 

[erkl]

the fantom is nice but i wouldnt buy it, nor a triton,

id get a computer and an mpc..