Alievating Hating

[nobodyfamous]

On site across the internet (which shall remain namless), a lot of people in the forums hate on different types of music!

first of all, there is a difference between hating and not caring for a type of music.
For example, Im sure a lot of people do not care for Lil Jon, but instead of saying you don't care for him, you will say, "lil jon sucks, this is garbage" etc. That is hating. I know it won't stop but we should try to eliminate it.
I think if everyone would step back and listen to the music, and think about what it is intended for, it would probably make a lot more sense to you. When I am just chilling out at home I am not going to put on some crunk ish, I am going to listen to something chill or something with some good lyrics, when i am on my way to the club or in the club, i want to hear crunk ish, when im with a girl i want to hear slow jams, etc.

Basically what I am tyring to say, use a better choice of words when you talk about music, it does not just happen to big artist, it also happens all of us small fries too! I just wanted to know what you all think, People on this site or more open minded and give better feedback than the other site!

B E Z

 

[Equality 7-2521]

well i know what you are saying....people become attatched to their favout genere and dont accept anything else. Hiphopers can be like this and people from other generes can be this way about Hiphop.

but i DO hate some artists.

for example

I HATE artists who sellout, na matter what kind of music it is...simple as that.

 

[BeatOff]

Why is everything now days hating if you dont like it? What happened to just not liking something or dispising it? I hate who ever made up the "Hater" thing. I personally Hate LiL Jon and all his screaming noise. Its an opinion not hating.

 

[Cold Truth]

um yeah i agree with beatoff here. allthough, when someone says the yhate something, that is by definition, hating the said artsist... which means you are hating!

 

[nobodyfamous]

but by definition, hate is have extreme anamosity towards someone or something, for example, i dont dislike the n*gga who knocked up my little sister, I hate him, there is a difference. I dont hate chingy, or all the other commercial rappers, they haven't did anything to me, i can change the channel and just not buy the cd. i mean, what has lil jon, or any other artist that you "hate" ever did to you. if you dont care for it, just say you dont like it, and thats fine. there is a difference though!

 

[MadScientist]

Hating has been twisted from its original meaning. Anyone that says I'm hating because I feel Lil' Jon sucks, are just hating on me. Thats Hating.

 

[DjDelay]

Mr Messenger "I HATE artists who sellout, na matter what kind of music it is...simple as that"

I know what your saying but think about bands/artists who spend years touring small clubs performing their music, alot of these acts don't even break even with the amount of money they're spending. Then one day a record company approaches them and offers them a $250,000 record contract.

You telling me you would say no? I know i wouldn't. Artists/bands can't control what the record companies do to their music and image

 

[Equality 7-2521]

i would refuse making a living from a bunch of hoes up in my video clip and sing the lyrics like "oh ababy baby, oh baby baby ohhhhhho oh i want you honey baby baby, take off all your clother baby blla bla bla bla bla baby"

hate is a twisted word

hate is world war...thats what hate is at is strongest

 

[nobodyfamous]

im not hating on you cuz u dont like lil jon, i was using him as an example, it could have been joe buddenm ying yang twins or anyone else for all i care. personally i dont like lil jon's music either, but im not going to GO OUT MY WAY to say how much i dont like iy, let me change the context now, say i am in the showcase forum and go to your site, and im not feelin the beat. i will simply say i dont like it and what it is that turns me off about the beat, that is contructive criticisim. but let say i go and say, "man, that ish is straight trash, how could you make some stupid ish like that, all your beats suck!" now that is hating and its disrespectful because you put a lot of work into it. then the reason someone would say that is probably because they are a dumbass or they wish they had what you had. basically, the whole point of this is, if you go above and beyond what is necessary and bring negativity into it, its hating, simple as that!

 

[Copenhagen]

I have to somewhat agree with Pboyproducer here. Saying you don't like it is sufficient, saying it sucks, is garbage and that you hate it is over the top. Whoever you may say this about has made something that is his personal expression, you can't disrespect or hate that, you may not like it but that's another thing. It's the whole negative vibe that Pboyproducer and I don't appreciate. Also, if someone else really likes the same thing that someone say he hates and think sucks, that will only provoke that other person...which is unnecessary.

 

[MadScientist]

You have it all twisted ..... Being a hater has a action involved. By someone simply stating that you or someone sucks or even saying I hate something doesn't make me a hater. Learn about it. The word hater originated out here in the Bay Area. Not ATL or Chilly Copenhagen. Your just part of the people who twist it and think any negative atittude or comments is hating. Its not. Your getting it confused. When I say Lil' Jon sucks its an opinion regardless if it will prevoke another person. Hating would be if I told a A&R he sucked right before he got his deal so he wouldn't get one. Hating involves me gaining something from speaking bad about that person. I'm not gaining anything by saying he sucks on Illmuzik.com. (its a opinion) The only thing it does is make people like you upset and twist the real definition of hating.

Originally posted by Copenhagen
Also, if someone else really likes the same thing that someone say he hates and think sucks, that will only provoke that other person...which is unnecessary.

^^^^^^ Why are you prevoking then ??????? You know what your comments will do if we disagree, so is what you say unnecessary?

 

[nobodyfamous]

well, i wouldn't go as far as to say the word hating origniated in california, but i see what you are saying. the word is underdstood differently by different regions. you say hating is saying someone sucks right before they get a deal to keep them from getting a deal, over here we would probably say someone is throwing salt in your game, or trying to sabatoge you or being a hoe. i get what you are saying. but besides that, you know what we mean when we say hating, and you know there are different meanings to the same word. so when we say you are hating on someones music, you know what we mean, and if we say you are just hating on someone, im sure you can figure it out and apply the correct definition.

 

[MadScientist]

I would go as far as saying it orginated in California (Bay Area) because we have been saying it way before anyone on the east coast and down south have been saying it. It was a word commonly used with Playa Hater then it branched off into hatin'. Just like Snoop sayin' Fa shizzle and all that other shit. He stole that slang from the Bay. Then Jay-Z sayin' Fa shizzle my Nizzle?(Come on) He used it and didn't pay homage to the originators. (pure disrespect) If you lived out here all your life you would know the real truth behind it. I'm sure Beat Off knows what I'm talking about. But thats another topic .......

 

[BeatOff]

Keek Da Sneek Startin all the Fa Shizzle Slang. No respect for the bay at all. Also Player hatin or hatin IS from the bay, it started off in the pimp game and branched off. Now its just an annoying way to call out somebody you dissagree with.

 

[nobodyfamous]

aiight..its from the bay, im sorry, didnt mean to disrepsect the bay. i got friends that live in the bay, and i know how your slang is. but regaurdless if it is annoying to you or not, you still now what people mean when they use the word in different context. but what do you all call it out there??

 

[afriquedeluxe]

hatin at times is down to jelousy........

 

[BeatOff]

Originally posted by pboyproducer
aiight..its from the bay, im sorry, didnt mean to disrepsect the bay. i got friends that live in the bay, and i know how your slang is. but regaurdless if it is annoying to you or not, you still now what people mean when they use the word in different context. but what do you all call it out there??

Oh naw i wasnt sayin you were disrespectin the bay, I have alot of family in atlanta and i go every year I used to live there a long time ago too. I know the ATL has love for the bay especially E40. The rest of the industry and country doesnt however. But anyways. Out here You hear that hater shit plenty. Way too much.

 

[nobodyfamous]

yeah..i like e-40, i dont know the name of the song, my room mate use to play it all the time (hes from the bay) when he talking about if you see him in a fight wit a bear, dont help him, help the bear! classic ish.

but besides that, im sure everyone knew what i meant when i said hating, i just think its wrong when people bring down another hard working artist just because you dont like their style. its just silly, and im not really talking about the big artist out, im talking about people on our level..ya know?

 

[Guevara]

Haters make the world go round, im a self proclaimed hater, sometimes people need to be kept in check, everything aint peachy keen...Eagles may soar high but snakes never get caught in Jet plane engines.

 

[nobodyfamous]

Guevara...lol..u wild