" New " Emu PCMCIA card

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Formant024

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Presented at NAMM.

E-mu 1616M and 1616 CardBus Digital Audio Systems

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM05/Content/E-mu/PR/1616M-lg.jpg

The same quality of the 1820/1202 series, in fact it's all the same except for the cardbus. 192kHz/24bit, 16 x neutrik I/O, the lot.

The E-MU CardBus Digital Audio Systems will ship in April 2005 with an estimated street price of $499.99 for the 1616M and $399.99 for the 1616
 

Formant024

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The firewire for one, doesnt have 16 analog I/O via Neutrik. But if that's neccesary depends on your demand for it ( you have a lot of hardware to produce with or do you have a lot of mic's to record ? ) or just plain pc with internal routings ( asio and the lot ).

In all I think it's cheapo compared to other solutions alike the RME Cardbus ( which isn't bad either, just a bit outdated - dunno if the cardbus supports 192kHz/24bit ) or MOTU. For what quality concerns, I think by spec alone the Emu will get props with their pristine converters and loud output ( 120dB snr ). But take notice of the M-types, M type comes with the pristine converters ( same as PT shizzle ) and balanced I/O ( for clean analog signal paths, but also implies the need for balanced cables and a mixing console with balanced I/O in order to take benefit ).

So if your rookie, not much into hardware than I'd go for the regular 1616. You want fancy tube mics and class A signal path side gear ( pre amps etc ) than start spending money the 1616M and all that goes along such a setup.

In any case you gotta check it yourself, Im not much aware of audiophile specs
 

Shonsteez

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Form, u hit the jackpot baby!.....dam, im so glad that EMU jumped on the portable bandwagon.....When i get my laptop, that piece is fucking ideal to have.

Whats up with the card tho that plugs into tha laptop?.....Howcome no firewire, i never seen that before, is it better?......Also, i agree, the box looks practically identical to mine, and it even looks like they got the same IDE cable going into the card somehow....thats kinda dope, i wonder how stable that little card is plugged into the side like that tho?
 

Formant024

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A PCMCIA is the laptop equivalent of the PCI board. So for the pc you have the 1820 PCI, the laptop has an 1820 build into the little PCMCIA Buscard. You've never seen it because there's hardly any other OEM's building pro pcmcia cards ( just RME really and they're costly compared to this, I gave them some specs here a while ago on their pcmcia cardbus which is basically the hammerfall ).

Why not firewire ?

Although the normal break box has firewire, it's still not clear to me if this is still the same with 1616. EMU does use firewire but not in the orderly fashion, meaning they haven't used it for the regular protocol. I doubt that the normal break out box is like the break out box on the 1616 because the features are 16 I/O's via Neutrik, with 48v phantom power ( but still with analog signal paths for clipping limiters, nice ... ), the 1820 has less analogue I/O as far as I can remember and no phantom support for all analogue I/O ( I thought it had 10 I/O's ).Considering that means they did a small overhaul of boards to make it compatible for use of laptop ( Im thinking about the little but unusual transformer on the 1212/1820, which probably is now placed somehow into the breakout box).

If it's better ? ....

Well, there been cases where Firewire had been used which created humm, noise of sort when used with laptop. I can't be sure about this but these are things I heard along other boards.
On the question whether the card is stable placed like that should be no problem, pcmcia cards are long and dont fall out their socket that easy. One pain though ( from experience ), if the plugs are shitty plastic and bends they're bound to break one way or another. I had this with a pcmcia modem, my girl made a stampede past the couch and ripped the cable the wrong way so the tip of the plug broke. There was no spare cable for this meaning I had to buy a new modem. It does look better on the 1616 being it a firewire plug, but it still needs caution.

Ow...the cardbus also works standalone, so you dont need the micro dock all the time.

Leaves one question.....


Can you still hook up the older break out boxes to this new cardbus ? That would be fuckin smart! 1212/1820 owner would only need the card bus in that case ( and a laptop ).
 

2_nice

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man rme stuff on ebay can be had cheap sometimes and it is all about their ZERO ! latency monitoring system and quality drivers. definitely the way to go. less chance of jitter takes a load off the cpu and better quality converters. i think in the semi pro market rme are the way to go (i think probably better than the motu converters definitely better than echo). i myself an going an rme card just for adat ins and outs and a focustire isa 428 soonish (rme soon and saving for the isa 428)
 

Formant024

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Oke, on ebay, I was thinking brandnew hehe. Besides, EMU has all DAS cards running on zero latency aswell. Difference is in I/O, depending on RME card... I runn a HDSP9652 Hammerfall, it does not include 16 analogue I/O's, it does have 3 ADAT ports but that's not anything for most domestic producers. but hell what are we talking about, PCI boards not PCMCIA. On the RME you'll have at max 8 analogue I/O's, 16 with ADAT to D/A. That D/A is something you need to add to it so against a new price RME ( and functional depending on your demands ) a MOTU traveler would be cheaper, and definitely the EMU is way cheaper with 16 I/O's already and basically the same specs as the RME Cardbus, if not, better...

MOTU stands out because with their ease of sync'ing midi and audio, but that is MAC related hehe. The converters in the MOTU are no point of discussion, those HD192 and even the traveller are killing most of the stuff coming out today.
 

Formant024

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Word... If... You should check up on productionforums.com, that's EMU online support and should be able to answer that.
 
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