guitar questions

[classic]

OK i want to get an acoustic gutiar, i dont know anything about guitars at all.

Most of yall areadly know im a musican but when it comes to guitars, im starting from square one. WHats a good (reasonably priced) acoustic guitar. ALso ive seen the acoustic gutiars that have the stero output(or something like that) should i get one of those so i could plug it in direclty to my soundcard or other audio equiment???

Im not to worried about learing how to play the gutiar, i know its something i can handle, im more concerned on how to incoperate it into my setup. I know i can sample a riff and play it. But how would it work if i wanted to play along with a beat live and not have to record and chop and riff or chourd......

Give ur feedback, opionions etc......


class...

 

[2_nice]

recording acoustic guitar is a real art man and mics and preamps are expensive.......

i myself have a roland gk-2a thing (which can connect to a gm-70 midi convertor or something like the vg-8 (stands for virtual guitar) that i am soon going to attach to a paul reed smith TREMONTI se with upgraded pickups (the guitar desgned by the creed guitarist and paul reed smith himself great tone/cash ration imo probably the best cheaper electric you can get a number of tones with seperate tone mix controls for both pickups)

i think for using in your setup this will give you alot more tonal possibilities (you can connect it to an acoustic guitar as well but i would recommend attaching it to an electric)

acoustic guitar wise yamaha are often good at the lower end (probably more yamaha for acoustic) myself i am not huge on the steel string acoustic sound but if you want steel strings a cheaper maton would be good

on the pickup tip often you will want to upgrade pickups anyway and on a cheaper guitar the pickups won't even stand up to the peizo pickups you can get from dicksmith or tandy

hope this has helped (not quite on topic)

you can hear the vg-8 with the gk-2a pickup on this hip hop album (mp3 snippets at webpage)

http://www.hydrofunk.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=43&products_id=65

(used with an ibanez guitar i forget which one just a cheap ibanez electric tho nothing that would cost more than $200 us on ebay)

the composer for this group was the guitarist and most melodic parts are gone with the vg-8

 

[classic]

Man hit me up on MSN (classic5beats@yahoo.com)
or AIM( fsugomab) casue i obvsiouly have alot to learn, u might as well been speaking chinese...

recording acoustic guitar is a real art man and mics and preamps are expensive.......

i myself have a roland gk-2a thing (which can connect to a gm-70 midi convertor or something like the vg-8 (stands for virtual guitar) that i am soon going to attach to a paul reed smith TREMONTI se with upgraded pickups (the guitar desgned by the creed guitarist and paul reed smith himself great tone/cash ration imo probably the best cheaper electric you can get a number of tones with seperate tone mix controls for both pickups)

i think for using in your setup this will give you alot more tonal possibilities (you can connect it to an acoustic guitar as well but i would recommend attaching it to an electric)

acoustic guitar wise yamaha are often good at the lower end (probably more yamaha for acoustic) myself i am not huge on the steel string acoustic sound but if you want steel strings a cheaper maton would be good

on the pickup tip often you will want to upgrade pickups anyway and on a cheaper guitar the pickups won't even stand up to the peizo pickups you can get from dicksmith or tandy

 

[2_nice]

recording acoustic guitar is a real art man and mics and preamps are expensive.......

i myself have a roland gk-2a thing (which can connect to a gm-70 midi convertor or something like the vg-8 (stands for virtual guitar) that i am soon going to attach to a paul reed smith TREMONTI se with upgraded pickups (the guitar desgned by the creed guitarist and paul reed smith himself great tone/cash ration imo probably the best cheaper electric you can get a number of tones with seperate tone mix controls for both pickups)

i think for using in your setup this will give you alot more tonal possibilities (you can connect it to an acoustic guitar as well but i would recommend attaching it to an electric)

acoustic guitar wise yamaha are often good at the lower end (probably more yamaha for acoustic) myself i am not huge on the steel string acoustic sound but if you want steel strings a cheaper maton would be good

on the pickup tip often you will want to upgrade pickups anyway and on a cheaper guitar the pickups won't even stand up to the peizo pickups you can get from dicksmith or tandy

more ranting

(my mate has the vg-8 it sounds great you can get cool organ sounds acoustic guitar horn pads etc. and bypass as well and just use the vg-8 as effects.... the roland gk-2a picks up each string seperately and then the vg-8 processes each string seperately to get acoustic guitar sounds i.e nylon and steel and as it isn't actually converting information to midi and triggering a module instead it effects the sound from the gk-2a....... you could set this up for (including guitar) for not alot more than $500 us on ebay.....

hope this has helped (wasn't quite on topic)

 

[bigdmakintrax]

acoustic is a pain in the ass....sounds nice...but recording to get the sound you want and make it sound like the acoustics that are professsionally recorded that you hear in a lot of sample cds and RnB songs takes practice I did some recording of acoustic guitars using oktava acoustic mikes..they were very expensive along with aDBX compressor....i aint saying it cant be done its just better to take your guy (pro)to the studio (that have knowledge of recording acoustic there is certain room characteristics and mic placement you need)have them do it and let him play away for a session, pay them and boom finished if you really need original samples that are technically correct except if you want a plain properly voiced chord......LOL

 

[Bobby Ffitch]

On the real, recording acoustic guitar is, as stated above, very difficult to accomplish effectively. That is to say, it is very difficult to get it to sound "perfect." it is possible to get pretty decent samples of the guitar without perfect equipment, however, and im sure your setup is more than adequate. especially with the use of some powerful audio editors.

i have done a few things where i would figure out something on the guitar that i liked, then make a beat around that, then export ot my sequencer on the computer (from the mpc) and record my guitar part live over that. it comes out sounding great, IMO. especially when i recorded the live part being played by a really solid guitar player. (i am no guitar pro myslef)

good luck.






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[classic]

i copped and elector acoustic gutiar and its dope, it has a 1/4th inch plug in that allows u to play direclty to a sound source. Im already recording little riffs direclty into soundforge.

Basically i wanted to learn guitar becasue its something ive always wanted to try, i have no illsiouns of becoming santana over night BUT , this is my 4th instrament so i do have an idea of how learn an instrament


class...

 

[bigdmakintrax]

U go Classic..cant wait to hear your creations.....so what does it sound like as far as sounding like an acoustic when you record?.....

 

[classic]

well its basically an acoustic gutiar with an 1/4 streo output. I just run it threw my mixer into my computer. It sounds acoustic when i record.... im gonna mess with plugging it into my fantom X rack and running it past those great filters/effects and see what i come up wit

class...

 

[sYgMa]

what brand of guitar?

I was gonna say, Use an accoustic guitar with pickups (like an electric guitar) or an acoustic electric guitar (they got a mic inside.. that's what I have)... but you already did...

Mine is a Takamine (actually my dad's), a EF441SC with a preamp on the side of the guitar...

What's hard with acoustic guitars is when you want a particular acoustic sound, you gotta record it with specific mics and there is also the way go gotta place those etc...

I'm guessing you will play riffs with it, so you dont really need top notch, "sting" quality recording. What you got should be quite all right.

 

[classic]

I got a seagull eletro acoustic guitar.... shits pretty dope, i love the challange of starting a new instrament, i fogot how fun it is...

class...

 

[N.U.G.]

I got a seagull eletro acoustic guitar.... shits pretty dope, i love the challange of starting a new instrament, i fogot how fun it is...

class...

how much it cost you bro and what made you choose that one?

I'mma learn guitar next year

how do you plan to learn?

good luck with it homie!!

 

[classic]

--bout 500 , it has great qualitity
--i choose by doing research and asking a couple of my homeboys who play.
-- its easy to use, it plugs right into my soundcard ive already recorded a couple of riffs and chopped em..

-- I plan to learn on my own, i may take one lesson, but this is my 4th instrament so i have some experince wit leaning new stuff.

thanks for the encouragement

class...

 

[N.U.G.]

--bout 500 , it has great qualitity
--i choose by doing research and asking a couple of my homeboys who play.
-- its easy to use, it plugs right into my soundcard ive already recorded a couple of riffs and chopped em..

-- I plan to learn on my own, i may take one lesson, but this is my 4th instrament so i have some experince wit leaning new stuff.

thanks for the encouragement

class...

sounds awesome mate

I'm looking forward to hearing some of ur songs with guitar in the future

good luck bro!

 

[sYgMa]

500?!... shoot! that kind of expensive for what you want to do with it... well I'm guessing it's quality though...

Good move!

 

[classic]

500?!... shoot! that kind of expensive for what you want to do with it... well I'm guessing it's quality though...

Good move!

Yea its some cheese but Ive always been willing to spend money for something of qualitity. My main goal is to learn the gutiar, using it in my current production is secondary. Ive wanted to learn the guitar way before i started producing...I plan on this being another musical outlet/hobby , just like hip hop production...

class....