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[Chrono]

now check'it first off i am not an advocate for publicity to this website. period. that's for obvious reasons if you think about it an debate it to yourself.

so that said,
this thread is about an mpc vs protools and the other software (besides audio editing programs) that are used to sequence tracks.


now check me. i think the mpc 1000 invigorated me by it's easy use of me bangin out beats. software was worse than jackin off in a port'o'potty because you got horn off a sexy female constructionworker that coulda doubled as a model but was too dumb to know it. that metaphore meaning is : the mpc1000 is too ->SoftwareSequencers like
using software is too hitting a desk with your thumbs an fingers to make a beat an at the same time wishing you had equiptment to make beats.
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This Question does not have limits on money and in no way includes the Trigger Finger.



whats your 2 cents?

 

[Hi-Lo]

now check'it first off i am not an advocate for publicity to this website. period. that's for obvious reasons if you think about it an debate it to yourself.

so that said,
this thread is about an mpc vs protools and the other software (besides audio editing programs) that are used to sequence tracks.


now check me. i think the mpc 1000 invigorated me by it's easy use of me bangin out beats. software was worse than jackin off in a port'o'potty because you got horn off a sexy female constructionworker that coulda doubled as a model but was too dumb to know it. that metaphore meaning is : the mpc1000 is too ->SoftwareSequencers like
using software is too hitting a desk with your thumbs an fingers to make a beat an at the same time wishing you had equiptment to make beats.
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---| What do you think.. Mpc or Software
/

This Question does not have limits on money and in no way includes the Trigger Finger.



whats your 2 cents?

I mean you're talking about two different things man...sequencing is really, at least to me, just the literal sequencing of the sounds you're using in your track. I don't know why you'd use the 1000 of all MPC's to sequence, as it has really limited sequencing features compared to the 2, let alone the 4000. If you have a 2000, 2500, or 4000, or a Roland MV8000, then I could see sequencing on the MP. But software is an easy and invaluable tool. I think it makes the most sense to use the MPC to bang a beat out and then sequence via Cubase, Reason, or FL. I would only really use Pro Tools for tracking. Just my 2 cents..

 

[Chrono]

I mean you're talking about two different things man

That's my point.




mpc vs software

 

[Hi-Lo]

That's my point.




mpc vs software

Your original post is talking about composition vs sequencing, with a debate about comps vs mpcs mixed in. When you talk about banging out a beat ont he mpc, thats composition.

If we're straight up debating just sequencing, just taking the sounds you have and layering/ordering them, then software is hands down more functional and easier than an MPC 1000. When you start getting into the Roland MV 8000 or an Akai MPC 4000, though, their sequencing is about on par w/ FL, Cubase, or Reason.

 

[FistFulloDollaz]

Your original post is talking about composition vs sequencing, with a debate about comps vs mpcs mixed in. When you talk about banging out a beat ont he mpc, thats composition.

If we're straight up debating just sequencing, just taking the sounds you have and layering/ordering them, then software is hands down more functional and easier than an MPC 1000. When you start getting into the Roland MV 8000 or an Akai MPC 4000, though, their sequencing is about on par w/ FL, Cubase, or Reason.

sequencing and layering on the 1000 and the 4000 is the same concept, not sure about the mv

just take all ur sequences and compile them into a song

what do u mean?


....with no trigger finger an mpc is definitely better for making beats

u cant do a crazy rearranged chopped up beat on software with no trigger finger or external controller or at least it would take forever to figure out a diff order of chops

 

[L. Soul]

I think an MPC is better for making only after you've done all the cutting because for the composition you can just bang it out easily. However, I feel software (trigger finger obviously excluded) makes you work a little harder though if you start with it. For example, I myself don't have the money for an MPC so I can't bang it out and I feel it makes you work that much harder to try and make them tighten up together.

But if I had the money the MPC would be the choice for ocmposition.

 

[Chrono]

u cant do a crazy rearranged chopped up beat on software with no trigger finger or external controller or at least it would take forever to figure out a diff order of chops

That is what I was curious about. I was into software before I knew about the mpc and I do not know alot about Pro Tools or software other than Reason and FL but Pro Tools was always like the holy grail. I was curious because my 1000 can do everything and more, with an audio editing program [i.e. cool edit]. I've found my holy grail thankfully, an this post kinda backs that up. i love my mpc!

thanks for the info

 

[FistFulloDollaz]

That is what I was curious about. I was into software before I knew about the mpc and I do not know alot about Pro Tools or software other than Reason and FL but Pro Tools was always like the holy grail. I was curious because my 1000 can do everything and more, with an audio editing program [i.e. cool edit]. I've found my holy grail thankfully, an this post kinda backs that up. i love my mpc!

thanks for the info

yeah u are equiped to make it happen with that machine and when OS 2.0 is available, it will be even more deadly

 

[MarkN]

i own an mpc 1000 have done since they were released pretty much i dnt use it much i rather use reason then pro tools i use it mainly as a trigger for my drums !
i find it really basic and time consuming for wot i want to do, i dnt know whether its me bcoz obviously so many ppl rave about them but i duno !

 

[bigdmakintrax]

Hi Lo & MarkN pretty much hit most of the points I would have made so I wont add too much, if you use an MPC it is possible to use it soley as your production workstation....I have the 1000 I use it for the ease of transferring my samples outside of that there are many features that piece lacks that I had in some of my other akai pieces but they had weak points too as far as workflow such as loading samples and unloading them and recalling the ones you wanted if you had to redump the beat.......the main features i look for are these......

1 Ease of loading samples and retrieving from a central point

2 Having my handmade pattern sound exactly as I bang it in then having quantization make up for any errors but leave the pattern on time.

3 Easy sample editing

I think that the mpc 1000 covers all of these but software like Reason 3.0 and Fruityloops 6 seem to have an advantage if you want instant results from your idea to be translated to a finished track if you want to put your hands on pre chopped recycle sounds, soundfonts or anything sonic then put it together into a track.

But if you have outboard gear such as a module or workstation the mpc1000 will serve as a better sequencer to sync all of these pieces but the one drawback is dumping each track after you are done ( that is one of my most hated tasks then mixing it)......to me software makes that process easier and plus I dont have track the beat after I am done I can instantly call it up and if I need to dump it i can easily do it.....which to me translates into more time to work on a new beat that would normall be spent dumping it off my gear track by track into protools .......

I really think if you are a good producer you can easily use software or hardware and also understand how they can be integrated to maximize what you are doing....I really like my motif es sounds and other modules better than most of the vst's I have come across, but on the other hand reason has the ability to give you access to all kinds of hi quality sounds that you could not find on the mo ......its all on what you want and what you like...

 

[Melodix]

When u are in a club listening to music there is know way to tell what was used to make that music. Your not like yo that was made with an MPC or that was Made with Reason. All that matters is that it sounds tight. The truth of the matter is , that alot of the sounds these guys hire live musicians and they get to the studioand record the shit. Then more than likely he tells the engineer to pice that music where it fits within PRO TOOLS/Digital Performer. So long story short it doesent matter what u make ur music with its what ever u feel comfortable enough with in order for your shit to BANG!!!

 

[FistFulloDollaz]

in other words what we are trying to say is do what works for YOU

play with the stuff ur interested in and which ever is best for you buy it

 

[Chrono]

Hi Lo & MarkN pretty much hit most of the points I would have made so I wont add too much

haha yeah right that was a chapter of a post! but I read it all an everyone else's, thanks for the science101

 

[H&R]

u cant do a crazy rearranged chopped up beat on software with no trigger finger or external controller or at least it would take forever to figure out a diff order of chops

Def. not true . . . & def. dumb to say . . . I don't have a trigger finger or external controller and I can chop just fine and it doesn't take long at all . . . Load my sample, chop, and i'm bangning out ina few minutes . . .

 

[Chrono]

& def. dumb to say . . .

he was giving his opinion. You obviously can do it in software like FL and Reason.. but for many beatmakers it's not feasible for their tastes.. I think that software takes muuuch longer to get to the point where you can jump in an bang shit out, that's my opinion. When I bought FL back in Nov of 03 I only made about 33 beats in all I never quit until i went to demo reason and then to an mpc. If i never found my mpc i'd still be kickin dirt.. i love writing lyrics but when i used software I wasn't pumpin'em out fast enough for my writes at the time. Now that I use an mpc i really am more focused on my new love for beatmaking.

we're fam here h&r so i'd be proper to correct people without insults'

 

[J Cro]

I dont understand why this is brought up 3 times a week. The same people post the same arguements over and over and waste space and bandwidth. If you want to relive the arguements and what not. Do a search and reread the old posts, as it's all the same thing.

 

[FistFulloDollaz]

Def. not true . . . & def. dumb to say . . . I don't have a trigger finger or external controller and I can chop just fine and it doesn't take long at all . . . Load my sample, chop, and i'm bangning out ina few minutes . . .

read closely this time since u didnt before obviously

I didnt say you couldnt CHOP duh... double duh... I said you cant rearrange chops into something crazy or at least it would take a lot longer being that you cant trigger the different chops with anything

in other words u would have to keep pasting and moving each piece to see what the order sounds like

where as with an mpc, trigger finger, mpd, midi keyboard and software u can just play the chops in any order and record it instantly


DO U UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING THIS TIME?

I DIDNT SAY IT CANT BE DONE WITH SOFTWARE I SAID IT CANT BE DONE OR IT WOULD TAKE FOREVER WITHOUT A EXTERNAL CONTROLLER!!!

and dont talk no bullshit cuz I was using FRUITY LOOPS in 99', probably way before u even dreamt of making beats

 

[Chrono]

people post ... arguements

yeah thanks everyone for the feedback on this thread i started because i had a question.. and that was answered.

drop internet issues right here.. peep game an do your thang with your samples and not your name.. or malicious opinion