Easter 101

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ILLIEN
ill o.g.
The answer lies in the ingenious way that the early Christian church absorbed Pagan practices. After discovering that the Pagans were reluctant to give up their holidays and festivals, they (Roman Catholic Church) simply incorporated Pagan practices into Christian festivals. Basically they overlayed Christian meanings to preexisting occasions. By doing this they altered Pagan practices to their own agenda of religious conversion and by doing so, made Christianity more palatable. The name "Easter" originated with the name of the ancient Pagan fertility Goddess Eostre (a.k.a. Eastre). She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Eostre was the goddess of fertility and was also known as known Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos." As an earth based practice, Paganism revered the animal world. They associated the hare (rabbit) with fertility and the animal companion of Eostre. Because rabbits reproduce so rapidly, the early Pagans associated them with fertility. So the connection between rabbits, eggs (the means of reproduction for many species) and a goddess of Spring (a time of new life and fertility) was established. They considered the egg a sacred representation of fertility as did many other ancient cultures. The ancient Babylonian religions had rituals involving dyed eggs as did the ancient Egyptians. Once again we find a situation with origins in Africa.

There are other Easter traditions that are Pagan in origin. The Easter sunrise service is straight jacked from the ancient Pagan practice of welcoming the sun on the morning of the spring equinox, marking the beginning of spring. What we now call Easter lilies were considered symbols of fertility and representative of the beef javelin, better known as the penis.

There is actually heated debate over whether the entire story of Jesus' resurrection was jacked from a story that has been accepted as several hundred years older. Pagan religions in the Mediterranean area had a major seasonal day of religious celebration at or following the Spring Equinox. Cybele, the Phrygian fertility goddess, had a fictional consort who was believed to have been born via a virgin birth. His name was Attis, who was believed to have died and been resurrected each year between March 22nd to March 25th. About 200 B.C.E. mystery cults began to appear in Rome just as they had earlier in Greece. Most notable was the Cybele cult centered on Vatican hill. Associated with the Cybele cult was that of her lover, Attis. He was a god of ever-reviving vegetation. Born of a virgin, he died and was reborn annually. The festival began as a day of blood on Black Friday and culminated after three days in a day of rejoicing over his resurrection.

Madddd numbers of religious historians believe that the Christian death and resurrection legends were first associated with Attis, many centuries before the birth of Jesus. They were simply grafted onto stories of Jesus' life in order to make Christian theology more acceptable to the Pagans who they were attempting to convert by any means necessary. Wherever Christian worship of Jesus and Pagan worship of Attis were active in the same geographical area in ancient times, Christians used to celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus on the same date as the Pagans existing festival. As a result, the Pagans and Christians used to have battle cyphers about which of their gods was the true prototype and which one was the wannabe.

Easter falls on the first Sunday on or following the spring Equinox after the full moon. The date has been calculated in this way since 325 A.C.E. Hmmmmm.....

***Pagan and Wicca religious practices are thousands of years older than Christianity. In truth they are earth based practices with no negativity associated with them. As a society we think of words like Pagan, Wicca, witches, etc. to be evil and bad. Keep in mind that the media is controlled by WASPS and there's little debate over what their agenda is in vilifying the very practices that they stole and now try to pass off as their own.



Article by Funk Wizard Snow
Editor - PhillyHipHop.com
April, 2003
 
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MIKELABZ

Guest
BLAH BLAH BLAH....HEARD IT ALL BEFORE.

THE THING TO REMEMBER:

WORDS CAN LIE TO. JUST BECUSE U SAY SOMETHING OR WRITE BIG PARAGRAPHS DOESNT MAKE YOUR MESSAGE TRUE. THERE ISNT A LICK OF EVIDENCE IN ANYTHING STATED ABOVE... JUST THEORY... UNLESS YOU ARE 1,000 YEARS OLD AND WE'RE THERE I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANY BULLSHYT ABOUT 'IN 23 BC....' NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE...

I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS:

ALL RELIGIONS ARE ALL THE SAME... THEY RELY ON EACH OTHER TO KEEP EACH OTHER INTACT... THEREFORE ITS POINTLESS TO TRY TO PROVE ONE IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER OR ONE CAME FROM ANOTHER BECUASE THEY ARE ALL CONNECTED IN SOME WAY SHAPE OR FORM...

AND THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME REASON FOR ESTABLISHMENT... TO CREATE AN ORDER... TO SUPPLY THE SOCIETY WITH PEASANTS WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO SUFFER FOR THE WHOLE... TO CREATE A BLUE COLLAR CLASS THAT WOULD SETTLE FOR FALLING SHORT... TO MAKE A SOCIETY STRONG WE NEED THESE BLUE COLLAR PEOPLE TO *JOB* AND MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER...THUS BY DOING SO SOCIETY CAN MOVE FORWARD AND ENSURE THAT ONLY THE STRONGEST MOST CUT THROAT HUMAN BEINGS SURVIVE.

SO IN ACTUALITY I'M HAPPY WITH THE RELIGIOUS PROCESS... IT PUTS MONEY IN MY POCKETS AND IT GIVES ME A ROOF OVER MY HEAD.. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK YOUR SUFFERING IS GREATLY APPRECIATED...

* - A WRESTLING TERM MEANING TO GIVE UP WILLINGLY
 
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CooGi_dice

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it is true that christianity is infested with paganism (just another form of satinism).
look at christmas, sunday worship, shit just look at the papacy.

jesus said it him self that it would happen after his death(the book of revelations), and durring jesus' time the jews had already been slowly accepting paganism and pagan practices.

all pagan religons stem from babylon, thus the whore of babylon is mentioned so many times in revelations.
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
i was actually going to post this same story (although i have never read that article.. where did you get it from?) so thanks for saving me the time.

also, i need to make it known that the catholic church, the christian church, and their beginnings are very different.. the pagan practices that are embedded in the CATHOLIC church came from Constantine, and that begat the crusades, papacy, etc. he implimented the easter and christmas facades that so many Christians and Catholics celebrate (santa, the rabbit). the irony is that these two sects really have seperate birth places but are accepted as the same thing.... and catholicism was a conglomerate of the Christian faith and those pagan beliefs.
 
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MIKELABZ

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3 QUICK NOTES:

SATAN DONT EXIST
JESUS DONT EXIST
GOD DONT EXIST

SO WHY ENCOMPASS YOUR LIFE WITH SUCH FOOLISH FAIRY TALES?
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
you know what mike? you need to just quit. if all you are going to do is continue with these posts, then just stop. no one is trying to convert you, no one is trying to tell you to believe, and everyone has been respectful in their disagreements. if you dont have anything to offer besides telling us what does and does not exist and BELITTLE MY FAITH, then please do not post on these threads! it isnt doing any goo, and there is really no contribution to the topic.

also...

i dont refer to your beliefs on the matter as self centered arrogance, so why do you persist on calling my faith a "foolish faiytale"? that isnt doing anything...

if i have, i apologoize, because that has never been my intention.
 
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MIKELABZ

Guest
UN HUH, YEA YEA YEA, OK FAM...

ID RATHER FACE THE UNKNOW RATHER THEN PRETEND IM PERFECT EVERYDAY.
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
hey, i dont pretend im perfect, at all. am i missing something to that statement? please explain. n
 
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MIKELABZ

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CHRISTAIN- ONE WHO IS LIKE CHRIST

SUPPOSEDLY CHRIST WAS 'PERFECT'

I ESSENCE TO BE CHRISTAIN MEANS U ARE STRIVING TO BE PERFECT WHICH IS A DAMN IMPOSSIBLE TASK.
 
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Equality 7-2521

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note that i couldnt be fucked reading the original post. sorry krzy.

yo Mike i think that even if truth was striving/pretending to be perfect, that is totally up to him.

i think everyone should be able to believe what they want to believe as long as it doesnt directly harm anyone else and they respect the differing views of others.

Truth i completely respect your choice of faith. the only thing i dont feel is fair is when you say "this is the truth". i know you havt said it in this thread. but you have said it several times in the past. but i pointed it out to you back then aswell. i cant remember what came of it. anyway.

just thought id say that. not tryng to fight. its just how i feel.
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
yo mess.... i got kind of caught up in these two other threads, and so i havent had the chance to really resond. my response is kind of lengthy as it is... there is a lot to the whole subject. you brought up a lot of things that were very true and made me think even more about some things, especially with everything going on w/ me and my church.... but i'll get that done asap.

as far as my take on my faith being the truth, well if i didnt think it was then i wouldnt bother with it!

however i will say that my wording could be better.... peace- Cold.

and Mike, no hard feelings, right? just makin sure things are still cool...
 

Shonsteez

Gurpologist
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 33
You gotta know that people are going to spawn opposing opinions to something like that tho..???....(tha original thread).

Even tho Mike had a viewpoint that got, well, i dunno if you'd say heated?...I believe he was trying to make a few simple points, whether it disturbed a few people along tha way or not (my interpretation of what has been said):

1. NO ONE REALLY KNOWS how we got here, or why were here, and if GOD is TRUELY RELATED to our existance.

2. Tha bible is a very OLD RE-INTERPRETED book that was written by people so long ago, human beings in its existance had to be much less INTELIGENT than we are NOW...Common sense.
(What with technology and science converging into our era, clearly changing a true outlook as we know it of how things can be viewed)

3. MANY things in tha bible like SATAN and HEAVEN have NO PHYSICAL SUBSTANCE or PROOF as to existing, where as tha 'LOGICAL OUTLOOK' makes it quite hard to accept things that sound "made up" or more so, like "FOLK STORIES"....

4. ALL religions act in tha same GENERAL way: in tha search of TRUTH, REDEMPTION, PEACE - (SOME, in their own wierd way), ACCEPTANCE, A HAPPY PLACE to go after we all DIE.
They also teach RULES: Dont kill people, rob, "tha golden rule" - Do onto others as you would like them to do onto you"...it goes something like that anyway...etc, you get tha point i hope.
*Help give people FAITH...

5. Maybe some people dont need to rely on a religion to feel good about themselves or learn how to treat others, for; for them human nature tends to be tha "sole controller" in tha end?
*We may have another plane to reach after this life, but who really knows?...Should you be worried about it tho, or dwell on it? Why not live for tha "now" and love tha ones who love you and make positive impacts along tha way and simply die a GOOD PERSON?...Is that not good enough?....
*MOSTLY, can you be content NOT KNOWING???


These are some pieces of info i picked up from this soon to be "battle thread"...

Crazy?


Steeze
 
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Equality 7-2521

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Originally posted by Cold Truth


as far as my take on my faith being the truth, well if i didnt think it was then i wouldnt bother with it!

however i will say that my wording could be better.... peace- Cold.

There is a GIGANTIC difference between "I think it is the truth" and "I know it is the truth."

You are quite right in thinking/believing it to be the truth but i think its unfair to say you know the truth. thats what i mean.

saal good

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ps word to what Deuce said.
 
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The Bastard

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i eat rabbit on easter,its an italian thing, but thats after church
 
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The Bastard

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dog i dont need your props cuz anyone that has as much disrespect for culture as dont get MY props
 
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