chopping samples and playing/arranging them in REASON... best process??

[N.U.G.]

hey guys,

I'm thinking of streamlining and improving on my sampling process and would appreciate some input from anyone who know's about this sort of stuff...

right now I'm trying to decide on;

1. chopping samples in an Audio Editor (like Soundforge/Wavelab/Audacity) OR chopping samples in Recycle... is one process/program particularly better than the other? and if so, why?

2. is Dr Rex, NN19, NNXT the prefferred module to play and rearrange samples in and why?

thanks playas

 

[KurtisRich]

What's up man I've only been using Reason for maybe about 2 months now. I usually use a bit of everything. I use Soundforge to record a sample from my records and it all depends on what I want to do with the sample. I also use Recycle to chop some samples up too but I dont use it much often. I use NNXT most of the time and I'll assign the sample to different keys so I can mess around with it. But the thing I like about Dr Rex is once you chop up the sample... it automatically assigns it to a key instead of doing it manually which will save you some time. If the sample sounds too choppy... just mess around with the Amp Envelope attack and release. If you find something else more useful than what I'm doing, holla at me too. I'm still learning new things everyday.

 

[Haze47]

soundforge for chopping, you can get in really really close, the fx are good, as are the compressors/limiters, i would say it is easier to use to than recycle as well, as it is a cut and paste system.....drawback, you have to time stretch everything precisely, you cant just set a bpm....

i play my samples back thro the nnxt, its got a decent filter, and you can layer up as many layers as you want (i usually layer up a sample like 32 - 64 times per sampler) <-----which as you knw boost the volume, and you can assign individual sample to different keys, so goo for drums, bass and melodies... you can save big patches as well, so you can apply low end theory in the actual sequencer, rather than doing it all in the wave editor...i dont like rex, cuz you c ant layer things up in it, and the volume is shit, but it does have a decent low pass filter on it, nn19 - i wouldnt use that for anything except playing basslines really


i dont know why you are asking this , because you surely know all this already.....i feel patronising saying this...

 

[N.U.G.]

^^^

thanks fellas

I'm basically trying to see if my process can be improved on...

right now I'm leaning towards going with Soundforge for all my chopping, people seem to swear by Recycle though and I wonder if I'm missing something about what makes it so great? I mean for sure Recycle is dope fpr chopping drum loops but I rarely do that - I mostly chop melodies

do u have any beats I can hear of yours Haze?

also, do u use markers in Soundforge when you chop or do u just save each chop as an a wav file individually?

thanks

 

[Haze47]

www.soundclick.com/urbanarcheology that stuff is fairly new on there....all the beats on there have been remixed since they were posted up on

nah man, i dont use markers, just chop amnd save, altho, i can see the pro points for a sustaining loop.....

 

[ManDAmyth]

I chop everything in Sound Forge as well.

To get around the bpm/time stretching problem I get ghetto and take run put it in FLStudio demo version, there I can choose the exact bpm, precisely.

Kind of ghetto but it works for me.

 

[Greg Savage]

i do all my chopping in the Nnxt personally then map aout the chops and go from there

 

[LMNO]

I don't know.... Recycle isn't really all that. There's no timestretch and dumping the rex into Reason doesn't timestretch at all. It's a simple chopper which is what I like about it. But, I use Recycle to chop and then the NNXT to map the chops. I like the NNXT more than the DR Rex cause I can tweak each chop invididually and output them invdividually if need to as well.

 

[N.U.G.]

^^^

cool, thanks for the advice everyone

as Recycle doesn't timestretch do u do ur timestretching in Sound Forge/Audition/Wavelab/Audacity?

 

[LMNO]

So far I haven't needed to timestretch, but when the time arises that I need to I'd go with Live 5 or Acid.

 

[Haze47]

^^^huh, you havwnt timestretched yet, why?

 

[Shonsteez]

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Audacity - for Chopping the big chops, or the "whole sample",
Recycle - for Slicing, or "chopping up the big chops".

 

[Stick_Man]

i use soundforge for choppin but adobe for fx and filters...

 

[Ash Holmz]

i think recycle is the shit... i dont timestrech either... dont know why really just dont do it... i tried timestreching one my beats once and it sounded fuced up so i never did it again

 

[N.U.G.]

i think recycle is the shit... i dont timestrech either... dont know why really just dont do it... i tried timestreching one my beats once and it sounded fuced up so i never did it again

do u use any other audio editors for chopping Ash or just Recycle?

 

[RigorMortis]

i've been stuck on cooledit since i first started usin it, soundforge and recycle tried them but didnt feel them that much although i might go fuck around with recycle again. And FL is easy on the stretching, with more options nowadays so i dont fuck with stretching in a wave-editor(although FL got wave-editing options i dont fuck around with that too much, i keep it seperated), i rather fuck with it when i am already sequencing. Saves time to i think.

 

[bhunt]

I record mine in cool edit then clean it up then I use recyele to chop it and make it a rex file. somtimes I eq in there like make it bass heavy or basslight depeding on how I"m going to use it. Then I use DR rex, but I have been using NNXT recently. It allows for last min fin tuning and using different filtering options on each chop.

 

[Sacred One]

i dont timestretch either, havent really found the need to do it yet, but I use Recycle to chop it up and use the NNXT to do everything else, just like everybody else said.

 

[KurtisRich]

I'm really starting to hate using software to make tracks. Sometimes its time consuming choppin up that sample, I'm an impatient brotha hahaaha. That's just me though.

 

[Chrono]

i've made a soundfont once that had my samples in it. infact i have soundfonts for many nes are arcade machines that i have made into soundfonts with all ocatves on my midi keyboard mapped. but i havn't got into sampling yet,, i'm sure one day i will when i'm more comfortable in making music in general.