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Hi-Lo

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
i have heard so many producers talking about this whole mpc thing. first just blaze made beats in 15 minutes and everyone had to do it. now he 'ditches' the mpc and everyone has to do it lol.

lemme put it this way...i feel sorry for amateurs who ditch their mpcs because just does. all other issues why that is wrong aside, just is not using a battery/mpd setup like anyone else on this site would be; he has a top of the line pro tools HD i/o system which means less than 1-2ms total latency for his input, which rivals an mpc. the average producer hooking up his mpd via usb isn't even close to that kind of response. and second, as i saw even just himself admit, he has to make up a lot of what he loses from the mpc with his engineer, who's one of the best in the game. i have yet to meet a whole bunch of producers at the non-pro level who are so good at mixing and mastering they can do that on the fly. just my opinion and thats coming from someone who started on battery, fl, and guru and went to the 4000 for drums and would never, ever go back.
 

Sanova

Guess Who's Back
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 9
i have heard so many producers talking about this whole mpc thing. first just blaze made beats in 15 minutes and everyone had to do it. now he 'ditches' the mpc and everyone has to do it lol.

lemme put it this way...i feel sorry for amateurs who ditch their mpcs because just does. all other issues why that is wrong aside, just is not using a battery/mpd setup like anyone else on this site would be; he has a top of the line pro tools HD i/o system which means less than 1-2ms total latency for his input, which rivals an mpc. the average producer hooking up his mpd via usb isn't even close to that kind of response. and second, as i saw even just himself admit, he has to make up a lot of what he loses from the mpc with his engineer, who's one of the best in the game. i have yet to meet a whole bunch of producers at the non-pro level who are so good at mixing and mastering they can do that on the fly. just my opinion and thats coming from someone who started on battery, fl, and guru and went to the 4000 for drums and would never, ever go back.

Word i feel you
 
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NARDO 4MYSEEDS

Guest
Do you stay tru to your Own path . That iz the main FUCKUP for cats in the GAME . NO HART & SOUL JUST COPY CATS !!!!
 

thedreampolice

A backwards poet writes inverse.
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 21
I also agree with that however I have to say that learning pro tools has helped my career over say sonar or tracktion, I am not saying that tracktion or sonar does not rock they do, but if you know pro tools people seem to trust you. Its strange like knowing PT makes me a better engineer (it doesnt) PT has grown on me as I used to hate it. I still like nuendo/samplitude better but PT is great. The joe meek plugins blow my mind as does Velvet.
 
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open mind

Guest
sure its interesting what the big boys in the industry are using to make their production tight.
but at the end of the day the question is what do U need (hardware/software) to achieve your sound and not what THEY use.

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robb_lowe

Akai Till I Die...
ill o.g.
its pointless disscusion. the mpc wont make a beat for u, neither do battery or guru or any other software. its about person. its about brains and skills. like just said "its not the machine, its the man behind the machine"!

thats what yall should be disscusing.

Word, and if everyone would take heed to that statement, then half the pointless arguments wouldn't happen on here. I couldn't agree with you more...
 

manguino

Pressure Makes Diamonds
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 7
what are we discussing here? how we should ditch hardware?
 

Sanova

Guess Who's Back
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 9
I don't even know how the discussion got to this.

I don't really care what just blaze uses, but its interesting what other producers fuck with, just for the entertainment factor.. to me at least.. Its just entertainment for our area of expertise.

Just like an archaeologist might watch a 4 hour movie about dinosaur bones, just because. Not because he wants to steal the other archaeologist's fossil recovery techniques..
 

Hi-Lo

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
exactly...for real i don't know why every discussion about gear comes back to 10 people all saying its the person not the gear. i agree! but i think all of us know that at this point. every time i see gear discussed on here, mpc forums, or really anywhere, the thread ends in a group of people all saying well it doesnt matter cause its all about the person. and the truth is i think a lot of people say this to avoid considering whats actually best for them. if we're talking about the same person, the gear can matter. if a kid has a setup with latency up in the 30ms range on some 5 year old laptop and the SAME kid goes out and gets an mpc or setup with zero latency, guess what...gear does matter in that case. that is an acutal difference and will make music easier for him, plain and simple. you have a kid in a studio with p.o.s unshielded cables compared to the same kid in a studio with monster cables and uh, yeah, his sound will be quite different.nothing is black and white and this thing people always say about gear not having any relevance on what someone produces is just wrong sometimes. that being said, since i guess this is obligatory lol...i am NOT saying gear will transform someone from bad to good. but can it help someone reach their full potential? yes.

anytime that one of the most loyal hardware users switches to software i think theres a perfectly reasonable discussion to be had there, as nova said. and all i meant with my original post is that aside from being wrong to just follow other producers, it would be really wrong to follow just on this cause none of us will be using the same setup he is even with an mpd and battery.
 

thedreampolice

A backwards poet writes inverse.
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 21
"anytime that one of the most loyal hardware users switches to software i think theres a perfectly reasonable discussion to be had there"

Ya, exactly. I was simply saying that I dont need any more proof that software only can make great songs. You dont need an MPC any more and in some cases MPC's make song creation more difficult. I love MPC's, but I would never trade in Reason for an MPC. I get very low latency on my mac g4 powerbook with reason and an MPD16, in fact I just did a tracking session on my dual g4 powermac and we played with the latency on Pro tools mpowered until the drummer was happy, we got it down to like 5ms. So I think we have the tools to really make software fly. The key is learning your tool!
 

Hi-Lo

ILLIEN
ill o.g.
"anytime that one of the most loyal hardware users switches to software i think theres a perfectly reasonable discussion to be had there"

Ya, exactly. I was simply saying that I dont need any more proof that software only can make great songs. You dont need an MPC any more and in some cases MPC's make song creation more difficult. I love MPC's, but I would never trade in Reason for an MPC. I get very low latency on my mac g4 powerbook with reason and an MPD16, in fact I just did a tracking session on my dual g4 powermac and we played with the latency on Pro tools mpowered until the drummer was happy, we got it down to like 5ms. So I think we have the tools to really make software fly. The key is learning your tool!

yeah, that's the real thing. whatever you use, learn it inside out.
 
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