another StressWon PSA,,,,,,

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
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ummm gotta disagree.

a producer should ALWAYS do the thing that they do.... that they are comfortable with and that theydo best.

besides, the GREAT artists always do what they do in a way that is unique to themselves, even if the particular sound/style gets played... pretenders tend to weed themselves out and have short careers anyhow.
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 68
Cold Truth said:
ummm gotta disagree.

a producer should ALWAYS do the thing that they do.... that they are comfortable with and that theydo best.




hell naw son! mannn, i'm tired of cats tryin to sound like somebody! Some of my beats sound like certain cats but that may be on accident and your right on the "weedin them out part. (nice pun by the way) BUT, too many cats tryin to sound like someone else. STOP please.
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 25
how is everyone copying the style? because... they sample soul?

do we forget that his drums and his percussion are a part of that overall sound?

and, if a guy wants to make his beats sound like his favortie producer, i say go for it.

taggers often learn buy using their favorite artists work as a starting point... guitartists learn by playing songs of their idols in FULL... piano players learn by playing fur elise and happy birthday...

and these are templates, starting points, kanye developed his current style from the supreme clientele album.... the lines go back.. athletes model their games after their idols...

the bottom line is that in all walks of life people begin their craft by using their own personal greats as their starting points, and the great artists will always leave their own mark. How about all of these generic, orchestral underground beats I here on here? Aint nothing that any of us do that hasnt already been done, and if it happens to be somebody large that did it so be it... somebody else emulating another artist dont hurt yuo any, and most people take that an develop from there.... what they eat dont make you shit, and how they go abuot learning and gettin their game up is their business.
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 68
Cold Truth said:
how is everyone copying the style? because... they sample soul?

do we forget that his drums and his percussion are a part of that overall sound?

and, if a guy wants to make his beats sound like his favortie producer, i say go for it.

taggers often learn buy using their favorite artists work as a starting point... guitartists learn by playing songs of their idols in FULL... piano players learn by playing fur elise and happy birthday...

and these are templates, starting points, kanye developed his current style from the supreme clientele album.... the lines go back.. athletes model their games after their idols...

the bottom line is that in all walks of life people begin their craft by using their own personal greats as their starting points, and the great artists will always leave their own mark. How about all of these generic, orchestral underground beats I here on here? Aint nothing that any of us do that hasnt already been done, and if it happens to be somebody large that did it so be it... somebody else emulating another artist dont hurt yuo any, and most people take that an develop from there.... what they eat dont make you shit, and how they go abuot learning and gettin their game up is their business.



whatever man, it just seems every producer i meet these days is tryin to use just old soul samples,,,its what i see.
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
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Battle Points: 25
but whats wrong with that?

thats their choice as producers, and you listen to what you like anyways, right?

so how does it affect you?
 

Cleverwon

Paradigm P
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 74
Alright fellas, take it easy... Don't make me have to close this thread!!! Lol
 

CampO

BEAT u DOWN
ill o.g.
It's not a Bad thing if theys what they Feeding there Families with

2 many people care to much about the Art of Making Beats Fuck that I rather No the Art of making $$$ so if some guy Comes 2 me and says Gimme that Kanye Vibe what am I Suppose to Say I dont no How ?


Anyways thats how im Seeing it Since my Dads Staying with me for awhile , Ive had a Chance to go too Different Studio's that his Friends have Alot of them are doin the Same thing as each other Because as they Told me Bottom line is They much Rather have $$$ then beats no one wants to hear .
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 68
Cold Truth said:
but whats wrong with that?

thats their choice as producers, and you listen to what you like anyways, right?

so how does it affect you?


hey, listen dont come at me cause you havin a bad day!!! lol, fo real tho,,,it bothers me,,,5th Amendment beotch! I'm chattin my mind!!! naw man,,,whatever, I'm surprised you aint agrrein wit me. But to each his own,,,its still lame.


Campo, we all can't be artists i guess.
 

J Rilla

Tha Fresh Prince of L.A.
ill o.g.
OH shyt a moderater fight,,,,,kinda on the fence on this argument....i think it depends on whats ur reason is for doing that style...If u doing it because Kanye is doing it then yea ur wack.....but if that is truly the way u make beats maybe even befoe Kanye got big than push on I mean Just do it Heatmakers do it, and RZA did it before all of them
 

O-H-TEN

aka Tha' NVZABLE DRAGON
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 3
J Rilla said:
OH shyt a moderater fight,,,,,kinda on the fence on this argument....i think it depends on whats ur reason is for doing that style...If u doing it because Kanye is doing it then yea ur wack.....but if that is truly the way u make beats maybe even befoe Kanye got big than push on I mean Just do it Heatmakers do it, and RZA did it before all of them



Hell Yeah!! It's about time somebody gave RZA his props!! He was doin' that ish long before anybody knew who the hell Kanye was! Thanks J Rilla. If Kanye can copy a style and get loot why not anyone else? I agree that it is okay to emulate your favorite producer. It's a way of learning new styles and sometimes you find your own style in the process. But I have to admit that the chipmunk thing is gettin' kinda played. As far as old soul goes; that will always be a source for samples because most people know the songs and the samples make the track seem familiar.
ONE
 

Cold Truth

IllMuzik Moderator
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Battle Points: 25
whoa whoa whoa

i aint tryin to be hostile

i just disagere, and you can disagree as well...


some of my post is devils advocate, but not all

and i actually agree to a point- but not completely. im sorry if i cam e off hostile, i am having a bad day and i dont eman to atke it out on anyone else...
 

StressWon

www.stress1.com
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 68
Cold Truth said:
whoa whoa whoa

i aint tryin to be hostile

i just disagere, and you can disagree as well...


some of my post is devils advocate, but not all

and i actually agree to a point- but not completely. im sorry if i cam e off hostile, i am having a bad day and i dont eman to atke it out on anyone else...


i know,,,,I love you Truth.....tear, sigh,,,lol
 

Kevin A

Differentiated Rebel
ill o.g.
I can't help but to read this and think about the thread you closed the other day. Bad choices son.
 

FuzE

i make beatz
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 99
to each his own. If you're doin whats natural for you don't stop. If you're forcin it then you need to keep searchin for your niche.
 

Fury

W.W.F.D
ill o.g.
cleverwon said:
Alright fellas, take it easy... Don't make me have to close this thread!!! Lol
lol its good to be a moderator.....
 

Cleverwon

Paradigm P
ill o.g.
Battle Points: 74
FuriouZ said:
lol its good to be a moderator.....
Yea..... Maybe one day....*stares off into space and sighs*
 
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