Fat Joe on today's hip-hop

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Iron Keys

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Best line is that, if you open old hip hop it's gonna be something different... (I.e LL, vs Luda, Vs Nas, vs Fab) but today everything is the same beat... People making love song on the same trap beat and same kill ya mom trap beat.

Great point.

 

Fade

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Best line is that, if you open old hip hop it's gonna be something different... (I.e LL, vs Luda, Vs Nas, vs Fab) but today everything is the same beat... People making love song on the same trap beat and same kill ya mom trap beat.

Great point.

This is how I've looked at it for years now, and the same can be said for basketball too. A lot of stuff is the same. I know someone will mention that there's dope shit and "you just have to look for it", I get that, but the majority is the same. Even the underground type of style today, a lot of guys have the same flow and come with that raspy "I'm hungry" voice.

It's just odd that so much is the same because I assume that in general people would want to make something their own. I guess it's just a different time now.

Last year, LL Cool J was asked in an interview with The New York Times what he feels is missing from today’s Hip Hop, simply replying: “Songwriting.”

Besides the beats, this is so important. Listen to older stuff and there's some great lyrics and plenty of memorable lines, and with that we had great lyricists. I can't see anyone naming any rapper today as a great lyricist. And don't even mention Kendrick with his smurf voice. I just can't.
 

konceptG

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This is how I've looked at it for years now, and the same can be said for basketball too. A lot of stuff is the same. I know someone will mention that there's dope shit and "you just have to look for it", I get that, but the majority is the same. Even the underground type of style today, a lot of guys have the same flow and come with that raspy "I'm hungry" voice.

It's just odd that so much is the same because I assume that in general people would want to make something their own. I guess it's just a different time now.



Besides the beats, this is so important. Listen to older stuff and there's some great lyrics and plenty of memorable lines, and with that we had great lyricists. I can't see anyone naming any rapper today as a great lyricist. And don't even mention Kendrick with his smurf voice. I just can't.

I would say J Cole is a good lyricist. Easily one of the cats from the last 10 years or so that I can listen to consistently. A-F-R-O as well, but he needs a real push.
 

Fade

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Yeah today it's literally random kids muttering phrases off time off pitch in autotune on the same beat
That's what I mean. I know things change, but how did we go from Emcees like LL, KRS, Nas, etc to mumbling on purpose? The worst part is these "rappers" today and especially the fans, they don't even know who the older artists - and they don't care.
 

konceptG

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J Cole is decent, but I just can't put him up there.

He's not on that Rakim/Nas/KRS level for sure, and I can't honestly say he'd be in my top 25 lyricists of all time, but compared to what out now??? Dude is way beyond the overwhelming majority of rappers out today.
 

Iron Keys

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That's what I mean. I know things change, but how did we go from Emcees like LL, KRS, Nas, etc to mumbling on purpose? The worst part is these "rappers" today and especially the fans, they don't even know who the older artists - and they don't care.
It's because people don't understand music.

Any kid can ask mom for a 100$ mic and interface bundle and stuff their presets in their cracked fruity loops copying some YouTube vid. Then just say random words. Then other kids listen and do the same.

There weird hepatitis fortnite 'rappers'
 
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